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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Were cron and at done at the same time? Or one before the other?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:08:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2MMYkX5fzOXpx6h-gkWMUZ1tJ8mZ-_aRUZ8iCOA7FQPUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201213020219.85F3D18C0A6@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>

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Amen

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 9:02 PM Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
wrote:

>     > From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o"
>
>     > Having a clean architecture is useful in so far as it makes reduces
>     > maintenance overhead and improves reliability.
>
> I would put it differently, hence my aphorism that: "the sign of great
> architecture is not how well it does the things it was designed to do, but
> how
> well it does things you never imagined it would be used for".
>
> I suppose you could say that reducing maintenance and improving reliability
> are examples of the natural consequences of that, but to me those are
> limited
> special cases of the more general statement. My sense is that systems
> decline
> over time because of what I call 'system cancer': as they are modified to
> do
> more and more (new) things, the changes are not usually very cleanly
> integrated, and eventually one winds up with a big pile. (Examples of this
> abound; I'm sure we can all think of several.)
>
>         Noel
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-13  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-13  2:02 Noel Chiappa
2020-12-13  2:08 ` Clem Cole [this message]
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2020-12-09 19:25 Noel Chiappa
2020-12-09  4:35 M Douglas McIlroy
2020-12-09 15:40 ` Clem Cole
2020-12-09 15:46   ` Niklas Karlsson
2020-12-09 16:01   ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-09 16:11     ` Clem Cole
2020-12-09 17:05       ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-09 17:42         ` Dan Stromberg
2020-12-09 23:46           ` Nemo Nusquam
2020-12-14 20:28     ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-14 22:23       ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-12-14 23:04         ` Andrew Hume
2020-12-14 23:59       ` Harald Arnesen
2020-12-17  4:08         ` John Cowan
2020-12-15  2:57       ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-15  3:05         ` Warner Losh
     [not found]   ` <CAC20D2PXZY9aWgDf-RknROs6JbKEUjzbQ2BRzfTgTR07pXni3g@mail.g mail.com>
2020-12-09 16:04     ` John Foust
2020-12-09 16:40   ` Warner Losh
2020-12-09 16:53     ` Jon Steinhart
2020-12-09 16:58   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-12-09 19:58     ` Dan Cross
2020-12-09 20:30       ` Will Senn
2020-12-13  1:07       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-12-13  1:56         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-12-13  2:58           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-12-13  3:07             ` Jon Steinhart
2020-12-13 16:49               ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-12-13  3:02         ` Dan Cross
2020-12-09 23:22     ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-09 23:44       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-12-09 23:51         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-12-12  2:56   ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-12 19:10     ` scj
2020-12-08 18:11 ron minnich
2020-12-08 18:51 ` Mary Ann Horton
2020-12-08 19:05   ` Larry McVoy
2020-12-08 19:20     ` Michael Kjörling
2020-12-09  2:00       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-08 19:39   ` Clem Cole

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