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From: Chris Hanson <cmhanson@eschatologist.net>
To: Joseph Holsten <joseph@josephholsten.com>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Earliest UNIX Workstations?
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:47:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EB3088E9-8B90-4800-B094-F22B81A92029@eschatologist.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E05C637A-6237-4000-9759-A73F267A94EC@josephholsten.com>

On Jan 25, 2023, at 4:31 PM, Joseph Holsten <joseph@josephholsten.com> wrote:
> 
> It seems like there are bountiful articles able the decline and fall of the UNIX workstation, but I’ve had a hard time finding narrative about workstations prior to the Stanford SUN workstation.
> 
> * was the SUN-1 the first commercially successful product? What are the “it depends” edge cases?

Nope, Apollo and the Three Rivers PERQ both predate Sun. And while one can certainly question PERQ's commercial success I don't think one can question Apollo's—they were done in by HP's purchase, not by market forces.

Apollo Aegis wasn't actually UNIX, but was very UNIX-like since it was designed by people who had worked at Prime on PrimOS and on MULTICS before that. And later releases provided more specifically UNIX-style environments for users as an alternative to Aegis.

The Three Rivers PERQ had several different environments available, including multiple UNIX implementations.

> * were there common recipes for proto-workstations within academic or industrial research? What did those look like, who was involved?

They mostly looked like the Xerox Alto, once it made waves in the research community.

> * What do I really mean by workstation? Ex.gr. If an installation had a PDP-11 with a single terminal and operator, is it not a workstation? Is it the integration of display into the system that differentiates? 

I think "a graphical system intended to be used by a professional to use in their work" is a good starting point for a definition. I should check at home tonight how "A History of Personal Workstations" defines it. Note that I wouldn't necessarily require a workstation to be primarily used by a single user; lots of 1970s CAD systems supported multiple user workstations on a single computer.

  -- Chris


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-26  0:31 [TUHS] " Joseph Holsten
2023-01-26  0:51 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-26  1:06   ` Luther Johnson
2023-01-26  1:15     ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-26  1:01 ` Larry Stewart
2023-01-26 13:25   ` Marc Donner
2023-01-26 13:58     ` arnold
2023-01-31  2:03   ` Mary Ann Horton
2023-01-31 17:43     ` Marc Donner
2023-01-26  1:12 ` Tom Lyon
2023-01-26  1:47 ` Chris Hanson [this message]
2023-01-26  7:20   ` John Cowan
2023-01-26  7:33     ` Dave Horsfall
     [not found]     ` <CAD2gp_QtUPmd78yAixvKK1wzPX67HKZXzU5cJnVUbcWtMounGQ@mail.g mail.com>
2023-01-26 16:35       ` John Foust via TUHS
2023-01-26 17:58     ` Jon Forrest
2023-01-26 18:04     ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-26 21:29       ` [TUHS] Collecting notes for future “historians” was: " Joseph Holsten
2023-01-26 21:38         ` [TUHS] " Jon Steinhart
2023-01-26 22:41           ` Joseph Holsten
2023-01-27  0:34             ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-27  0:36             ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-27  0:53               ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-27  1:28                 ` David Arnold
2023-01-27  1:35                   ` Warner Losh
2023-01-26  9:52 ` [TUHS] " emanuel stiebler
2023-01-26  9:58   ` Rob Pike
2023-01-26 10:09   ` Jaap Akkerhuis via TUHS
2023-01-26 15:14 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-26 13:15 Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2023-01-26 15:58 [TUHS] " Paul Ruizendaal
2023-01-26 16:04 ` [TUHS] " Larry McVoy
2023-01-26 16:37   ` emanuel stiebler
2023-01-26 16:51     ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-01-26 16:29 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-26 22:17   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-01-26 22:45     ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-27  0:19       ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-01-27 17:16         ` Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2023-01-27 17:36           ` Warner Losh
2023-01-27 17:37             ` Warner Losh
2023-01-27 17:45               ` Rich Salz
2023-01-27 17:54                 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-28  9:14                   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-01-28 11:05                     ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-01-28 15:38                       ` Warner Losh
2023-01-28 18:50                       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-01-29  6:48                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-01-29 20:39                       ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-01-27 17:43           ` josh
2023-01-26 16:51 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-26 18:15   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-01-26 19:39     ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-27 10:59     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-01-26 18:14 ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-26 20:44 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-29 23:20 Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2023-01-30  0:25 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-01-30  5:23 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-01-30  8:45   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-01-30  9:22   ` Jonathan Gray
2023-01-31 11:35   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2023-01-31 23:29   ` Chris Hanson
2023-01-30 13:00 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-02-06  7:01 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-02-06  8:39   ` Jonathan Gray

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