[TUHS] Re: Compatibility question

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For the record Ken's scripting appears to work with my copy of SimH vax780 albeit with some non-fatal errors, probably different configure flags vs. the static copy in this archive. I'm on aarch64 so can't use the vax780 binary in there but after boot the images seem to run fine for me. Dunno what distros do, my copy is upstream.

Typing "unix" at the double "$" prompt starts the bootstrap. Running uname(1) returns the expected properties for SVR2 for the VAX-11/780.

- Matt G.

P.S. SVR2 is post-1983 so a little touchier, so just some caution on distribution. Not sure if there's any IP ownership differences concerning materials that said "Western Electric" and/or "Bell Laboratories" in their licenses vs materials that said "AT&T". Some clarity from the interested parties would be helpful but I have no clue what the likelihood of a second round of free-to-study licensing of later SysV codebases looks like. I would have to wonder if the licensing of illumos has some technicality where all code SVR4 and back (that being the split point) is technically covered under their license. I'm no lawyer so *shrug*
On Sunday, December 17th, 2023 at 4:35 PM, KenUnix <ken.unix.guy@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here is what I ended up doing. Creating a putty session with locked size. Aso
> using the vi as designed it works well. I have included the putty.defs, putty.notes
> and vi.notes.
>
> Now everything is fine. Thanks for your help.
>
> See attachments
>
> Getting System-V-r2-VAX780:
>
> For those running Arch the tar file is here. Simply download, untar
> cd to it , type in ./unix
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XToKXIxZvs9LKNerkVbTNspMik7OnLrs/view?usp=drive_link
>
> For other 64 bit Unix's use this image
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L-M8dGXogDpKutR0fpSkOkaEfNNH-1SZ/view?usp=drive_link
>
> Getting System-V-r3-3b2-700 64bit:
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/16zJrq3USLFAVnoGtbh4GCIj685o_UQER/view?usp=drive_link
>
> The above packages do not require any special software. It is all self contained.
>
> -ken
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 6:08 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 4:00 PM Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That’s not entirely true. The VT100 could switch modes from 80x24 to 132x14 (the latter was pretty ugly) or with the AVO 132x24.
>>
>> I recall some VMS programs in v3.2 misbehaving when run in 132x24 mode...
>>
>> Warner
>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From "Mary Ann Horton" <mah@mhorton.net>
>>> To tuhs@tuhs.org
>>> Date 12/17/23, 5:51:00 PM
>>> Subject [TUHS] Re: Compatibility question
>>>
>>>> The concept of a resizable window didn't appear until GUI interfaces. Originally the hardware terminal had one specific size and vi depended on the screen being that exact size. I suspect that SVr2 was in that category, as the Sun merger of SVr4 would have been the reason to incorporate it. So try a 24x80 window and see if it behaves.
>
> --
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> JOB TERMINATED

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