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From: KenUnix <ken.unix.guy@gmail.com>
To: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Compatibility question
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2023 19:35:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJXSPs_bYDPZEj9op6vtH5OoTMWJ7z3iQF0p1meOG2bsT9zrOg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfpb6DpE48HRDqzVDEKW7-K34u+3KS_X7RFDSh7D0SpURw@mail.gmail.com>


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Here is what I ended up doing. Creating a putty session with locked size.
Aso
using the vi as designed it works well. I have included the putty.defs,
putty.notes
and vi.notes.

Now everything is fine. Thanks for your help.

See attachments

Getting System-V-r2-VAX780:

For those running Arch the tar file is here. Simply download, untar
cd to it , type in ./unix

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XToKXIxZvs9LKNerkVbTNspMik7OnLrs/view?usp=drive_link

For other 64 bit Unix's use this image

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L-M8dGXogDpKutR0fpSkOkaEfNNH-1SZ/view?usp=drive_link

Getting System-V-r3-3b2-700 64bit:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16zJrq3USLFAVnoGtbh4GCIj685o_UQER/view?usp=drive_link

The above packages do not require any special software. It is all self
contained.

-ken


On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 6:08 PM Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 4:00 PM Ron Natalie <ron@ronnatalie.com> wrote:
>
>> That’s not entirely true.   The VT100 could switch modes from 80x24 to
>> 132x14 (the latter was pretty ugly) or with the AVO 132x24.
>>
>
> I recall some VMS programs in v3.2 misbehaving when run in 132x24 mode...
>
> Warner
>
> ------ Original Message ------
>> From "Mary Ann Horton" <mah@mhorton.net>
>> To tuhs@tuhs.org
>> Date 12/17/23, 5:51:00 PM
>> Subject [TUHS] Re: Compatibility question
>>
>> The concept of a resizable window didn't appear until GUI interfaces.
>> Originally the hardware terminal had one specific size and vi depended on
>> the screen being that exact size. I suspect that SVr2 was in that category,
>> as the Sun merger of SVr4 would have been the reason to incorporate it. So
>> try a 24x80 window and see if it behaves.
>>
>>
>>

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12-17-2023 KenUnix Old School

In vi under Unix use the following most common keys:

a  = Ad text
dd = Delete current line. Example to delete 3 lines you would enter 3dd
i  = Insert text at cursor position
j  = Join lines at the cursor
p  = paste yanked lines at current line position
q  = Quit vi
q! = Quit vi without saving
r  = Read file , append
s  = Substitute text. Example :s/old/new/ for current line
       or :s 1,$ /old/new/ for entire file
u  = Undo the lest operation
w  = Write file
x  = Erase character under cursor
yy = Yank line
:  = Issue command. Example :w to write file
esc= Go to command mode


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12-17-2023 KenUnix

If putty is not installed under Arch do: sudo pacman -S putty

Under most other Linux's do: sudo apt-get install putty

File putty.defs contains the setup for running putty under Linux port 2323.

Put putty.defs into ~/.putty/sessions/telnet2323
This will give you a pre-configured vt-100 setup with 20 points font.

Then when firing up putty load telnet2323. Then click open
after a few seconds you should get a Unix login screen.

When done right click on the window and click close.


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-18 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-17  2:01 [TUHS] " KenUnix
2023-12-17 18:13 ` [TUHS] " Seth Morabito
2023-12-17 18:23   ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-12-17 22:51     ` Mary Ann Horton
2023-12-17 22:59       ` Ron Natalie
2023-12-17 23:08         ` Warner Losh
2023-12-18  0:35           ` KenUnix [this message]
2023-12-18  3:24             ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-12-18 17:05         ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-18 22:29           ` Jon Forrest
2023-12-19  1:46           ` Dave Horsfall
2023-12-19  7:56             ` Harald Arnesen
2023-12-19 17:40             ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-19 18:07               ` Tom Lyon
2023-12-19 20:23                 ` Clem Cole
2023-12-19 21:31                   ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-19 23:52                     ` Bakul Shah
2023-12-20  0:05                       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2023-12-20  1:03                         ` Bakul Shah
2023-12-20  1:32                           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2023-12-20  6:05                             ` Wesley Parish
2023-12-20  0:15                       ` Mary Ann Horton
2023-12-20 16:07                         ` Adam Thornton
2023-12-20 16:22                           ` Clem Cole
2023-12-20 18:11                           ` Alan D. Salewski
2023-12-20 16:34                         ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-20 18:15                           ` Jon Forrest
2023-12-20  1:11                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-12-20  1:23                         ` Tom Lyon
2023-12-21  3:53                     ` Rod Bartlett via TUHS
2023-12-19 21:34                   ` Rob Pike
2023-12-17  5:55 David Arnold
2023-12-17  8:08 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-12-17 18:04   ` James Frew
2023-12-17 18:18     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-12-17 19:14       ` Brad Spencer
2023-12-17 18:48     ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-17 18:59       ` Warner Losh
2023-12-17 20:24       ` Dave Horsfall
2023-12-17 19:26     ` Dan Cross
2023-12-17 20:08       ` Warner Losh
2023-12-17 14:07 ` Brad Spencer
2023-12-17 14:47   ` Arrigo Triulzi via TUHS

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