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From: Brad Spencer <brad@anduin.eldar.org>
To: David Arnold <davida@pobox.com>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Compatibility question
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2023 09:07:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xoncyv4sz0l.fsf@anduin.eldar.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7AD36632-2B2F-43E2-999D-4F6373C3C64C@pobox.com> (message from David Arnold on Sun, 17 Dec 2023 16:55:37 +1100)

David Arnold <davida@pobox.com> writes:

> 
>> On 17 Dec 2023, at 13:02, KenUnix <ken.unix.guy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> -8<—
>
>> I have tried vt100, vt100-am, vt100-nam and none
>> work as expected.
>
> I have a long-ago recollection that using vt100 had rendering issues with emacs, but vt102 was fine.  Maybe worth a shot?
>
>
>
> d



Unless you are actually using a real VT100 physical serial terminal
there is very much a non-zero chance that the terminal emulator that you
are using is not really vt100, vt102, or any such thing, but some
subset, superset or variant that isn't quite like a real physical VT100,
close but not exact.  You may try 'ansi' or 'xterm', if either of those
are available in the Unix you are using.  If not, try a different
terminal emulator.

Example..  a long time ago in a university far away, there was Data
General systems mostly and lots of DG211 terminals.  The DG211 have a
ansi mode that is very close to vt100, but not quite.  Along comes
various Unix systems, in particular, a RS6000.  Wanting to play Moria
(successor to rogue), I found that the ansi mode didn't quite cut it and
ended up hacking up a TERMCAP / TERMINFO entry to deal with the issue as
best as it was possible.  I could never come up with a native DG211
entry that worked any better than my hacks. If I recall, the terminal
*MAY* have supported VT52 as well (or that might have been the MV10000
that did some sort of DG211 to VT52 translation) I know I ended up
writing a VT52 terminal emulator (for some reason or other... it was a
long time ago) and I know I used it on the Unix systems that started to
appear around the university as time went on.  VT52 was pretty simple
and it tended to work pretty well.









-- 
Brad Spencer - brad@anduin.eldar.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-18 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-17  5:55 David Arnold
2023-12-17  8:08 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-12-17 18:04   ` James Frew
2023-12-17 18:18     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-12-17 19:14       ` Brad Spencer
2023-12-17 18:48     ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-17 18:59       ` Warner Losh
2023-12-17 20:24       ` Dave Horsfall
2023-12-17 19:26     ` Dan Cross
2023-12-17 20:08       ` Warner Losh
2023-12-17 14:07 ` Brad Spencer [this message]
2023-12-17 14:47   ` Arrigo Triulzi via TUHS
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-12-17  2:01 [TUHS] " KenUnix
2023-12-17 18:13 ` [TUHS] " Seth Morabito
2023-12-17 18:23   ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-12-17 22:51     ` Mary Ann Horton
2023-12-17 22:59       ` Ron Natalie
2023-12-17 23:08         ` Warner Losh
2023-12-18  0:35           ` KenUnix
2023-12-18  3:24             ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-12-18 17:05         ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-18 22:29           ` Jon Forrest
2023-12-19  1:46           ` Dave Horsfall
2023-12-19  7:56             ` Harald Arnesen
2023-12-19 17:40             ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-19 18:07               ` Tom Lyon
2023-12-19 20:23                 ` Clem Cole
2023-12-19 21:31                   ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-19 23:52                     ` Bakul Shah
2023-12-20  0:05                       ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2023-12-20  1:03                         ` Bakul Shah
2023-12-20  1:32                           ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2023-12-20  6:05                             ` Wesley Parish
2023-12-20  0:15                       ` Mary Ann Horton
2023-12-20 16:07                         ` Adam Thornton
2023-12-20 16:22                           ` Clem Cole
2023-12-20 18:11                           ` Alan D. Salewski
2023-12-20 16:34                         ` Paul Winalski
2023-12-20 18:15                           ` Jon Forrest
2023-12-20  1:11                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-12-20  1:23                         ` Tom Lyon
2023-12-21  3:53                     ` Rod Bartlett via TUHS
2023-12-19 21:34                   ` Rob Pike

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