* zsh 5.5 available @ 2018-04-08 16:45 Peter Stephenson 2018-04-08 22:06 ` Ray Andrews 2018-04-11 7:58 ` Simon Ruderich 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Peter Stephenson @ 2018-04-08 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zsh Users You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and also at Sourceforge. A proper release message has gone to zsh-announce, but that's slower and not 100% reliable so I'm sending this to zsh-users too. I'd encourage everyone installing or packaging 5.4.2 to upgrade. See the README and NEWS files for more. pws ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-08 16:45 zsh 5.5 available Peter Stephenson @ 2018-04-08 22:06 ` Ray Andrews 2018-04-09 8:39 ` Peter Stephenson 2018-04-11 7:58 ` Simon Ruderich 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-08 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zsh-users On 08/04/18 09:45 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote: > You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and also at > Sourceforge. > > A proper release message has gone to zsh-announce, but that's slower and > not 100% reliable so I'm sending this to zsh-users too. > > I'd encourage everyone installing or packaging 5.4.2 to upgrade. > > See the README and NEWS files for more. > > pws > Thanks Peter. For the first timeI have no issue at all installing, even with ncurses. One question: I use a'--prefix=...', it seems to contain duplicates of everything importantthat the build creates, is there anything outside that location that should be retained or is it redundant once the binary is built? Actually, '/Doc' seems unduplicated, anything else? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-08 22:06 ` Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-09 8:39 ` Peter Stephenson 2018-04-10 2:14 ` Ray Andrews 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Peter Stephenson @ 2018-04-09 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zsh-users On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 15:06:59 -0700 Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca> wrote: > On 08/04/18 09:45 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote: > > You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and > > also at Sourceforge. > > Thanks Peter. For the first timeI have no issue at all installing, > even with ncurses. One question: I use a'--prefix=...', it seems to > contain duplicates of everything importantthat the build creates, is > there anything outside that location that should be retained or is it > redundant once the binary is built? Actually, '/Doc' seems > unduplicated, anything else? Everything you actually need is installed. The formatted documentation is installed in various appropriate locations so they can be found by tools: man pages, info files, HTML output, help files. There's no obvvious reason you'd need to recreate them from source. But you might want to squirrel away the PDF files from Doc somewhere (you can get them from zsh-5.5-doc.tar.gz). pws ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-09 8:39 ` Peter Stephenson @ 2018-04-10 2:14 ` Ray Andrews 2018-04-10 2:29 ` Joey Pabalinas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-10 2:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zsh-users On 09/04/18 01:39 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote: > The formatted documentation is installed in various appropriate > locations so they can be found by tools: man pages, info files, HTML > output, help files. There's no obvvious reason you'd need to recreate > them from source. But you might want to squirrel away the PDF files > from Doc somewhere (you can get them from zsh-5.5-doc.tar.gz). > > pws > Both info and man are still 5.3.1, what's needed to update them? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-10 2:14 ` Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-10 2:29 ` Joey Pabalinas 2018-04-10 3:02 ` Ray Andrews 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Joey Pabalinas @ 2018-04-10 2:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ray Andrews; +Cc: zsh-users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 308 bytes --] On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 07:14:24PM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote: > Both info and man are still 5.3.1, what's needed to update them? Yodl is used to generate the documentation, and IIRC if the build system detects a Yodl install it should update the versions automatically. -- Cheers, Joey Pabalinas [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-10 2:29 ` Joey Pabalinas @ 2018-04-10 3:02 ` Ray Andrews 2018-04-10 3:35 ` Joey Pabalinas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-10 3:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zsh-users On 09/04/18 07:29 PM, Joey Pabalinas wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 07:14:24PM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote: >> Both info and man are still 5.3.1, what's needed to update them? > Yodl is used to generate the documentation, and IIRC if the build > system detects a Yodl install it should update the versions > automatically. > I'd expect so but whereasthe 'info' is there, and I can run it " info ./zsh.info " if I'm in the directory where that file is found, otherwise the older version is found. I ran " make install.info" and I have the mentioned dependencies. Somehow 'info' just doesn't know where to look. Ditto the 'man' pages-- still the older version. I copied everything in the new build " .../share/man/man1" to " /usr/share/man/man1", and that seems to work but I'd expect it to happen automatically, as you say. Also, the specific info pages, inthe older version seem to be just the man pages shown slightly differently, there are no specific 'zsh.info*' files as there are with zsh-5.5, and I don't know where they should go. There's a "/usr/share/info" directory but it has no comparable files, only '...info.gz' files and I'm afraid to try anything by hand. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-10 3:02 ` Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-10 3:35 ` Joey Pabalinas 2018-04-10 14:08 ` Ray Andrews 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Joey Pabalinas @ 2018-04-10 3:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ray Andrews; +Cc: zsh-users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1710 bytes --] On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 08:02:14PM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote: > I'd expect it to happen automatically, as you say. Also, the specific info > pages, inthe older version seem to be just the man pages shown slightly > differently, there are no specific 'zsh.info*' files as there are with > zsh-5.5, and I don't know where they should go. There's a "/usr/share/info" > directory but it has no comparable files, only '...info.gz' files and I'm > afraid to try anything by hand. By default `make install` will install to /usr/local on most Linux systems, and you probably don't have that in your MANPATH/INFOPATH. You can either add /usr/local/share/man and /usr/local/share/info to those environment variables or you can set the installation paths when you ./configure with --prefix (currently you likely have it as /usr/local) or you can set them individually with --mandir and --infodir. N.B. It's usually not a good idea to make install with --prefix=/usr as that is the usual install prefix for you package manager and things might get weird. I personally use --prefix=~/.local and have added the paths in there to my .zshenv. If you do it that way no need to use `sudo make install` either, just > ./configure --prefix=~/.local && make && make install and: > MANPATH="$HOME/.local/share/man:$MANPATH" > INFOPATH="$HOME/.local/share/info:$INFOPATH" in your shell startup files Also, the .gz files are just the gzipped versions which most man and info (maybe all) implementations understand implicitly. You can create them yourself if you want to safe space just by doing `gzip foo.info` and decompress with `gzip -d foo.info.gz` -- Cheers, Joey Pabalinas [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-10 3:35 ` Joey Pabalinas @ 2018-04-10 14:08 ` Ray Andrews 2018-04-10 15:54 ` Joey Pabalinas 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-10 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zsh-users On 09/04/18 08:35 PM, Joey Pabalinas wrote: > By default `make install` will install to /usr/local on most Linux > systems, and you probably don't have that in your MANPATH/INFOPATH. Right, they are entirely unset. > > You can either add /usr/local/share/man and /usr/local/share/info '/usr/share/...' here, don't know if that's a Debian thing or what. Thanks Joey that was helpful, but I think I'll leave zsh's 'info' as a little island unto itself, since it seems to work fine that way, and just make an alias to get to it. If I remember, my previous install handled the man pages without any need for an intervention but it now seems there was no info at all, it was just the man pages differently presented whereas now info is something distinct. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-10 14:08 ` Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-10 15:54 ` Joey Pabalinas 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Joey Pabalinas @ 2018-04-10 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ray Andrews; +Cc: zsh-users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 677 bytes --] On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 07:08:51AM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote: > Thanks Joey that was helpful, but I think I'll leave zsh's 'info' as a > little island unto itself, since it seems to work fine that way, and just > make an alias to get to it. If I remember, my previous install handled the > man pages without any need for an intervention but it now seems there was no > info at all, it was just the man pages differently presented whereas now > info is something distinct. No problem. And /usr/share is the default system one like I said; it's not recommended using that due to possible conflicts with your system's package manager. -- Cheers, Joey Pabalinas [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-08 16:45 zsh 5.5 available Peter Stephenson 2018-04-08 22:06 ` Ray Andrews @ 2018-04-11 7:58 ` Simon Ruderich 2018-04-11 8:18 ` Peter Stephenson 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Simon Ruderich @ 2018-04-11 7:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zsh-users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 776 bytes --] On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 05:45:03PM +0100, Peter Stephenson wrote: > You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and also at > Sourceforge. > > A proper release message has gone to zsh-announce, but that's slower and > not 100% reliable so I'm sending this to zsh-users too. > > I'd encourage everyone installing or packaging 5.4.2 to upgrade. Hello, I've updated the website [1] for this release. The commits are in the public web repository [2] (370963; tag zsh-5.5). If you find any problems/mistakes please tell me. Regards Simon [1]: http://zsh.sourceforge.net/ [2]: http://zsh.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=zsh/web;a=summary -- + privacy is necessary + using gnupg http://gnupg.org + public key id: 0x92FEFDB7E44C32F9 [-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: zsh 5.5 available 2018-04-11 7:58 ` Simon Ruderich @ 2018-04-11 8:18 ` Peter Stephenson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Peter Stephenson @ 2018-04-11 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: zsh-users Thanks for that (and apologies for reply from phone). pws On 11 April 2018 08:58:27 BST, Simon Ruderich <simon@ruderich.org> wrote: >On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 05:45:03PM +0100, Peter Stephenson wrote: >> You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and also >at >> Sourceforge. >> >> A proper release message has gone to zsh-announce, but that's slower >and >> not 100% reliable so I'm sending this to zsh-users too. >> >> I'd encourage everyone installing or packaging 5.4.2 to upgrade. > >Hello, > >I've updated the website [1] for this release. The commits are in >the public web repository [2] (370963; tag zsh-5.5). If you find >any problems/mistakes please tell me. > >Regards >Simon > >[1]: http://zsh.sourceforge.net/ >[2]: http://zsh.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=zsh/web;a=summary -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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