zsh 5.5 available

zsh 5.5 available

[Peter Stephenson]

You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and also at
Sourceforge.

A proper release message has gone to zsh-announce, but that's slower and
not 100% reliable so I'm sending this to zsh-users too.

I'd encourage everyone installing or packaging 5.4.2 to upgrade.

See the README and NEWS files for more.

pws

Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Ray Andrews]

On 08/04/18 09:45 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and also at
> Sourceforge.
>
> A proper release message has gone to zsh-announce, but that's slower and
> not 100% reliable so I'm sending this to zsh-users too.
>
> I'd encourage everyone installing or packaging 5.4.2 to upgrade.
>
> See the README and NEWS files for more.
>
> pws
>
Thanks Peter.  For the first timeI have no issue at all installing, even 
with ncurses. One question: I  use a'--prefix=...', it seems to contain 
duplicates of everything importantthat the build creates, is there 
anything outside that location that should be retained or is it 
redundant once the binary is built?  Actually, '/Doc' seems 
unduplicated, anything else?

Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Peter Stephenson]

On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 15:06:59 -0700
Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca> wrote:

> On 08/04/18 09:45 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> > You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and
> > also at Sourceforge.
>
> Thanks Peter.  For the first timeI have no issue at all installing,
> even with ncurses. One question: I  use a'--prefix=...', it seems to
> contain duplicates of everything importantthat the build creates, is
> there anything outside that location that should be retained or is it 
> redundant once the binary is built?  Actually, '/Doc' seems 
> unduplicated, anything else?

Everything you actually need is installed.

The formatted documentation is installed in various appropriate
locations so they can be found by tools: man pages, info files, HTML
output, help files.  There's no obvvious reason you'd need to recreate
them from source.  But you might want to squirrel away the PDF files
from Doc somewhere (you can get them from zsh-5.5-doc.tar.gz).

pws

Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Ray Andrews]

On 09/04/18 01:39 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> The formatted documentation is installed in various appropriate
> locations so they can be found by tools: man pages, info files, HTML
> output, help files.  There's no obvvious reason you'd need to recreate
> them from source.  But you might want to squirrel away the PDF files
> from Doc somewhere (you can get them from zsh-5.5-doc.tar.gz).
>
> pws
>
Both info and man are still 5.3.1, what's needed to update them?

Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Joey Pabalinas]

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On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 07:14:24PM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote:
> Both info and man are still 5.3.1, what's needed to update them?

Yodl is used to generate the documentation, and IIRC if the build
system detects a Yodl install it should update the versions
automatically.

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Joey Pabalinas

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Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Ray Andrews]

On 09/04/18 07:29 PM, Joey Pabalinas wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 07:14:24PM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote:
>> Both info and man are still 5.3.1, what's needed to update them?
> Yodl is used to generate the documentation, and IIRC if the build
> system detects a Yodl install it should update the versions
> automatically.
>
I'd expect so but whereasthe 'info' is there, and I can run it " info 
./zsh.info " if I'm in the directory where that file is found, otherwise 
the older version is found.  I ran " make install.info" and I have the 
mentioned dependencies.  Somehow 'info' just doesn't know where to  
look.  Ditto the 'man' pages-- still the older version. I copied 
everything in the new build " .../share/man/man1" to " 
/usr/share/man/man1", and that seems to work but I'd expect it to happen 
automatically, as you say.  Also, the specific info pages, inthe older 
version seem to be just the man pages shown slightly differently, there 
are no specific 'zsh.info*' files as there are with zsh-5.5, and I don't 
know where they should go. There's a "/usr/share/info" directory but it 
has no comparable files, only '...info.gz' files and I'm afraid to try 
anything by hand.

Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Joey Pabalinas]

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On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 08:02:14PM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote:
> I'd expect it to happen automatically, as you say.  Also, the specific info
> pages, inthe older version seem to be just the man pages shown slightly
> differently, there are no specific 'zsh.info*' files as there are with
> zsh-5.5, and I don't know where they should go. There's a "/usr/share/info"
> directory but it has no comparable files, only '...info.gz' files and I'm
> afraid to try anything by hand.

By default `make install` will install to /usr/local on most Linux
systems, and you probably don't have that in your MANPATH/INFOPATH.

You can either add /usr/local/share/man and /usr/local/share/info
to those environment variables or you can set the installation
paths when you ./configure with --prefix (currently you likely have it
as /usr/local) or you can set them individually with --mandir and
--infodir.

N.B. It's usually not a good idea to make install with --prefix=/usr
as that is the usual install prefix for you package manager and things
might get weird. I personally use --prefix=~/.local and have added the
paths in there to my .zshenv.

If you do it that way no need to use `sudo make install` either, just

> ./configure --prefix=~/.local && make && make install

and:

> MANPATH="$HOME/.local/share/man:$MANPATH"
> INFOPATH="$HOME/.local/share/info:$INFOPATH"

in your shell startup files

Also, the .gz files are just the gzipped versions which most man and
info (maybe all) implementations understand implicitly.

You can create them yourself if you want to safe space just by doing
`gzip foo.info` and decompress with `gzip -d foo.info.gz`

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Cheers,
Joey Pabalinas

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Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Ray Andrews]

On 09/04/18 08:35 PM, Joey Pabalinas wrote:
> By default `make install` will install to /usr/local on most Linux
> systems, and you probably don't have that in your MANPATH/INFOPATH.
Right, they are entirely unset.
>
> You can either add /usr/local/share/man and /usr/local/share/info
'/usr/share/...' here, don't know if that's a Debian thing or what.

Thanks Joey that was helpful, but I think I'll leave zsh's 'info' as a 
little island unto itself, since it seems to work fine that way, and 
just make an alias to get to it.  If I remember, my previous install 
handled the man pages without any need for an intervention but it now 
seems there was no info at all, it was just the man pages differently 
presented whereas now info is something distinct.

Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Joey Pabalinas]

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On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 07:08:51AM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote:
> Thanks Joey that was helpful, but I think I'll leave zsh's 'info' as a
> little island unto itself, since it seems to work fine that way, and just
> make an alias to get to it.  If I remember, my previous install handled the
> man pages without any need for an intervention but it now seems there was no
> info at all, it was just the man pages differently presented whereas now
> info is something distinct.

No problem. And /usr/share is the default system one like I said; it's
not recommended using that due to possible conflicts with your system's
package manager.

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Cheers,
Joey Pabalinas

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Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Simon Ruderich]

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On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 05:45:03PM +0100, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and also at
> Sourceforge.
>
> A proper release message has gone to zsh-announce, but that's slower and
> not 100% reliable so I'm sending this to zsh-users too.
>
> I'd encourage everyone installing or packaging 5.4.2 to upgrade.

Hello,

I've updated the website [1] for this release. The commits are in
the public web repository [2] (370963; tag zsh-5.5). If you find
any problems/mistakes please tell me.

Regards
Simon

[1]: http://zsh.sourceforge.net/
[2]: http://zsh.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=zsh/web;a=summary
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Re: zsh 5.5 available

[Peter Stephenson]

Thanks for that (and apologies for reply from phone).

pws

On 11 April 2018 08:58:27 BST, Simon Ruderich <simon@ruderich.org> wrote:
>On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 05:45:03PM +0100, Peter Stephenson wrote:
>> You'll find the release 5.5 of zsh at http://www.zsh.org/pub and also
>at
>> Sourceforge.
>>
>> A proper release message has gone to zsh-announce, but that's slower
>and
>> not 100% reliable so I'm sending this to zsh-users too.
>>
>> I'd encourage everyone installing or packaging 5.4.2 to upgrade.
>
>Hello,
>
>I've updated the website [1] for this release. The commits are in
>the public web repository [2] (370963; tag zsh-5.5). If you find
>any problems/mistakes please tell me.
>
>Regards
>Simon
>
>[1]: http://zsh.sourceforge.net/
>[2]: http://zsh.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=zsh/web;a=summary

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