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From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org>
To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk
Subject: Re: [PATCH] history locking with fcntl
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:49:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080418004942.GA1067@prunille.vinc17.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <080417065834.ZM9193@torch.brasslantern.com>

On 2008-04-17 06:58:34 -0700, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Apr 17, 10:40am, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> } pindex(HIST_FCNTL_LOCK)
> } provide better performance, in particular avoiding history corruption when
> } files are stored on NFS.
> 
> Really?  Traditionally fcntl() has been a lousy way to lock over NFS.

AFAIK, it's the only way to prevent some corruption due to file caching.

> Procmail, for example, has acres of code to handle using secondary
> files as semaphores precisely because nothing else was reliable over
> NFS

But procmail *also* uses fcntl. My patch still uses the old lock
mechanism, it just adds fcntl locking. That said, I often use fcntl
only, without any problem.

> (more specifically, only creat() was guaranteed to be atomic and
> lock daemons were flaky).

Some software, like Firefox, uses symlink() locking. So, if symlink()
isn't atomic, there will be problems with such software.

> I guess my point is that while fcntl() may be good on recent OSs (or
> recent versions of NFS, more likely) it's dangerous in an environment
> where you don't know what the NFS server is using (no matter how recent
> the local NFS client is).

I don't see why it can be dangerous if it is used in addition to
another lock mechanism, like it currently is.

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-18  0:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-15 15:31 Vincent Lefevre
2008-04-17  9:40 ` Peter Stephenson
2008-04-17 13:58   ` Bart Schaefer
2008-04-18  0:49     ` Vincent Lefevre [this message]
2008-04-18  1:24       ` Bart Schaefer
2008-04-17 16:23 ` Wayne Davison
2008-04-17 16:35   ` Peter Stephenson
2008-04-18  0:59   ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-04-19  2:31     ` Wayne Davison
2008-04-19  5:23       ` Bart Schaefer
2008-04-19 18:35         ` Wayne Davison
2008-04-21 13:19       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-05-05  1:25         ` Wayne Davison
2009-01-01  4:01           ` Vincent Lefevre
2009-01-01  4:12             ` Vincent Lefevre

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