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From: Lucio De Re <lucio@proxima.alt.za>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Python filesystem
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:03:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011129140311.K317@cackle.proxima.alt.za> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E169O7Q-0005Nt-00@minster.cs.york.ac.uk>; from John Murdie on Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 10:08:30AM +0000

On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 10:08:30AM +0000, John Murdie wrote:
>
> And very, very, retro, and contrary to the Unix (and Plan 9)
> `philosophy' of putting commonly-required facilities in (just) one
> place. If you did the above, wouldn't you have to add all the non-CVS
> facilities of a shell to CVS (and to everything else you turned into a
> shell)?
>
A valid point, but one that may apply to shared objects too  :-)
:-)  :-)

My intention was to cause the shell to build a namespace with the
necessary (and only the necessary) tools in place.  Those that are
unique to the shell would be built (in a funny sense) into the
shell and "exported" (that's an interesting solution to the lack
of private environment variables in rc - just don't add them to
/env, which means serving /env within the shell, doesn't it?) into
the namespace as appropriate.

I'm kind of looking for seamlessness between the shell and the
namespace and, for the sake of protection, limiting the namespace
to specific instances of modules that may have been sanitised for
the purpose.  Or extended, for that matter.

I like embedded languages and my limited efforts with the namespace
library made me think on how best to combine embedding with the
more practical aspects of a shell and the environment it provides.
But it is just rambles, right now.

++L


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-11-29 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-11-28 18:54 Russ Cox
2001-11-28 19:09 ` Matt
2001-11-28 21:46   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 12:24     ` Matt
2001-11-29  5:49   ` Lucio De Re
2001-11-29  6:30     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29  6:31       ` George Michaelson
2001-11-29  7:10         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 11:26           ` Sam Holden
2001-12-06 16:56           ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-12-06 17:32             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 10:50       ` Lucio De Re
2001-11-29 11:06         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-12-06 15:59           ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-11-29  7:21     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-29  7:32       ` Steve Kilbane
2001-12-03 22:39         ` Laura Creighton
2001-12-07  9:36           ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-12-07 14:07             ` Laura Creighton
2001-11-29  7:37       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 11:10         ` Christopher Nielsen
2001-11-29 19:51         ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-29 10:08     ` John Murdie
2001-11-29 10:37       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 12:03       ` Lucio De Re [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-08 19:58 Doug McIlroy
2001-11-30  0:11 geoff
2001-11-30  3:10 ` William Josephson
2001-11-29 23:07 geoff
2001-11-29 23:26 ` George Michaelson
2001-11-29 20:01 Russ Cox
2001-11-29 20:37 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-29 20:49   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-30 16:01     ` plan9
2001-12-01  4:44       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 14:49 Russ Cox
2001-11-29 19:28 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-29 20:02   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-29 20:05   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 10:23 rog
2001-11-29 10:54 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-28 20:36 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-28 18:21 Russ Cox
2001-11-28 18:34 ` Matt
2001-11-28 18:18 Matt
2001-11-30  5:44 ` Quinn Dunkan
2001-11-09 22:26 [9fans] Rant (was Re: Plan9 and Ada95?) David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-10  0:10 ` William Josephson
2001-11-10  8:29   ` Matthew Hannigan
2001-11-10  8:39     ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
2001-11-11  1:38       ` Steve Kilbane
2001-11-11  3:34         ` Dan Cross
2001-11-11 11:20           ` Steve Kilbane
2001-11-11 17:30             ` Dan Cross
2001-11-12 10:42           ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-11  8:25         ` paurea
2001-11-11 17:31           ` Dan Cross
2001-09-21 14:04 [9fans] Plan 9 versus CORBA? Andrew Simmons
2001-09-21 14:25 ` andrey mirtchovski
2001-09-21 14:29   ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-09-21 15:16   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-09-21 14:28 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-09-24  8:51   ` Andrew Simmons
2001-09-24 16:25     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-24 22:43       ` George Michaelson
2001-09-24 22:54         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  0:37           ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25  0:39             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  0:55               ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25  1:00                 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  0:42             ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  0:56               ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25  1:00                 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  1:23                   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-09-25  2:27                     ` Dan Cross
2001-09-25  2:31                       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25  2:12                   ` Dan Cross
2001-09-25  2:32                     ` William Josephson
2001-10-01  9:51     ` Mike Warner
2001-09-21 14:33 ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-10 10:32 [9fans] sam vs acme rog
2001-07-10 10:43 ` Lucio De Re
2001-07-18  8:43   ` David Rubin
2001-07-18 21:17     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-18 21:40       ` Scott Schwartz
2001-07-18 21:51         ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-18 22:55           ` George Michaelson
2001-07-18 23:00             ` Scott Schwartz
2001-07-19 15:34               ` Samterm panic (was Re: [9fans] sam vs acme) suspect
2001-07-19 16:00                 ` Scott Schwartz
2001-07-20  8:54                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-19  0:00             ` [9fans] sam vs acme Boyd Roberts
2001-07-19  0:12             ` suspect
2001-07-19  0:14               ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-20  8:54             ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-20  9:47               ` George Michaelson
2001-07-20 10:08                 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-20 16:44                   ` Ozan Yigit
2001-07-20 21:57                     ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-10 16:04 ` [9fans] wily, acme, etc Ozan Yigit
2001-07-10 22:57 ` [9fans] sam vs acme Steve Kilbane
2001-07-10 23:23   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-11  6:55     ` Steve Kilbane
2001-07-11 13:24       ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-11 21:20         ` Steve Kilbane
2001-07-12 10:36           ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-12  8:31         ` Ozan Yigit
2001-07-12 10:38           ` Boyd Roberts
     [not found] <aam396@mail.usask.ca>
2001-06-24 23:04 ` andrey mirtchovski
2001-06-24 22:14   ` Matt
2001-06-24 22:33   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-06-25  3:41     ` Dan Cross
2001-06-28 22:58     ` Boyd Roberts

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