From: John Murdie <john@cs.york.ac.uk>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Cc: John Murdie <john@cs.york.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Python filesystem
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:08:30 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E169O7Q-0005Nt-00@minster.cs.york.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011129074900.F317@cackle.proxima.alt.za>
On 29 Nov, Lucio De Re wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 07:09:58PM +0000, Matt wrote:
>>
>> I'm surprised more of the command line tools aren't daemonised actually.
>>
> My thinking (just to show how muddled one can get) was to turn
> environments into shells, instead. Take CVS, for example:
>
> cvs login
> cvs co
> cvs update
> etc.
>
> I'd have a CVS shell accepting all sort of commands:
>
> % CVS
> cvs> login
> cvs> co
> ...
>
> where the commands are scripts and executables built into the shell (or
> not, as one sees fit) and bound to /bin (the traditional home for them)
> in as restricted a namespace as one finds necessary.
>
> Very, very vague, I fear.
>
> ++L
And very, very, retro, and contrary to the Unix (and Plan 9)
`philosophy' of putting commonly-required facilities in (just) one
place. If you did the above, wouldn't you have to add all the non-CVS
facilities of a shell to CVS (and to everything else you turned into a
shell)?
I'm sure a lot of us remember DEC's PIP; file manipulation in a
closed-off environment which had separate and very different grammar
rules from the shell. Uggh!
--
John A. Murdie
Experimental Officer (Software)
Department of Computer Science
University of York
England
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Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-11-28 18:54 Russ Cox
2001-11-28 19:09 ` Matt
2001-11-28 21:46 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 12:24 ` Matt
2001-11-29 5:49 ` Lucio De Re
2001-11-29 6:30 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 6:31 ` George Michaelson
2001-11-29 7:10 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 11:26 ` Sam Holden
2001-12-06 16:56 ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-12-06 17:32 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 10:50 ` Lucio De Re
2001-11-29 11:06 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-12-06 15:59 ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-11-29 7:21 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-29 7:32 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-12-03 22:39 ` Laura Creighton
2001-12-07 9:36 ` Ralph Corderoy
2001-12-07 14:07 ` Laura Creighton
2001-11-29 7:37 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 11:10 ` Christopher Nielsen
2001-11-29 19:51 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-29 10:08 ` John Murdie [this message]
2001-11-29 10:37 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 12:03 ` Lucio De Re
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-08 19:58 Doug McIlroy
2001-11-30 0:11 geoff
2001-11-30 3:10 ` William Josephson
2001-11-29 23:07 geoff
2001-11-29 23:26 ` George Michaelson
2001-11-29 20:01 Russ Cox
2001-11-29 20:37 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-29 20:49 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-30 16:01 ` plan9
2001-12-01 4:44 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 14:49 Russ Cox
2001-11-29 19:28 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-29 20:02 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2001-11-29 20:05 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-29 10:23 rog
2001-11-29 10:54 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-28 20:36 David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-28 18:21 Russ Cox
2001-11-28 18:34 ` Matt
2001-11-28 18:18 Matt
2001-11-30 5:44 ` Quinn Dunkan
2001-11-09 22:26 [9fans] Rant (was Re: Plan9 and Ada95?) David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-10 0:10 ` William Josephson
2001-11-10 8:29 ` Matthew Hannigan
2001-11-10 8:39 ` Andrey A Mirtchovski
2001-11-11 1:38 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-11-11 3:34 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-11 11:20 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-11-11 17:30 ` Dan Cross
2001-11-12 10:42 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-11-11 8:25 ` paurea
2001-11-11 17:31 ` Dan Cross
2001-09-21 14:04 [9fans] Plan 9 versus CORBA? Andrew Simmons
2001-09-21 14:25 ` andrey mirtchovski
2001-09-21 14:29 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-09-21 15:16 ` Scott Schwartz
2001-09-21 14:28 ` Ronald G Minnich
2001-09-24 8:51 ` Andrew Simmons
2001-09-24 16:25 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-24 22:43 ` George Michaelson
2001-09-24 22:54 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25 0:37 ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25 0:39 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25 0:55 ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25 1:00 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25 0:42 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25 0:56 ` George Michaelson
2001-09-25 1:00 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25 1:23 ` Scott Schwartz
2001-09-25 2:27 ` Dan Cross
2001-09-25 2:31 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-09-25 2:12 ` Dan Cross
2001-09-25 2:32 ` William Josephson
2001-10-01 9:51 ` Mike Warner
2001-09-21 14:33 ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-10 10:32 [9fans] sam vs acme rog
2001-07-10 10:43 ` Lucio De Re
2001-07-18 8:43 ` David Rubin
2001-07-18 21:17 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-18 21:40 ` Scott Schwartz
2001-07-18 21:51 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-18 22:55 ` George Michaelson
2001-07-18 23:00 ` Scott Schwartz
2001-07-19 15:34 ` Samterm panic (was Re: [9fans] sam vs acme) suspect
2001-07-19 16:00 ` Scott Schwartz
2001-07-20 8:54 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-19 0:00 ` [9fans] sam vs acme Boyd Roberts
2001-07-19 0:12 ` suspect
2001-07-19 0:14 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-20 8:54 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-07-20 9:47 ` George Michaelson
2001-07-20 10:08 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-20 16:44 ` Ozan Yigit
2001-07-20 21:57 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-10 16:04 ` [9fans] wily, acme, etc Ozan Yigit
2001-07-10 22:57 ` [9fans] sam vs acme Steve Kilbane
2001-07-10 23:23 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-11 6:55 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-07-11 13:24 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-11 21:20 ` Steve Kilbane
2001-07-12 10:36 ` Boyd Roberts
2001-07-12 8:31 ` Ozan Yigit
2001-07-12 10:38 ` Boyd Roberts
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2001-06-24 23:04 ` andrey mirtchovski
2001-06-24 22:14 ` Matt
2001-06-24 22:33 ` Scott Schwartz
2001-06-25 3:41 ` Dan Cross
2001-06-28 22:58 ` Boyd Roberts
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