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From: Aharon Robbins <arnold@skeeve.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: configure misery
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:25:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311171225.hAHCPIGp030162@skeeve.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1068984706@[192.168.42.6]>

In article <2147483647.1068984706@[192.168.42.6]> you write:
>--On Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:04 AM +0200 Aharon Robbins
><arnold@skeeve.com> wrote:
>
>> FWIW, gawk ships as standard on every Linux system and most or all
>> BSDs,
>
>Due to the AT&T lawsuit fiasco, and not because of the joys of
>configure. (I'm not sure if that was the implication you were making.)

The point was twofold:  1. gawk isn't some dinky program that sees no use
except by its author, and 2. that autoconf makes the 1-line configuration
incantation work on dozens of Unix variants.

>Also, FreeBSD has reverted to BWK awk for /usr/bin/awk.

I believe this is for ideological reasons as well.

As for sparc64 problems, I fail to understand why people encountering
these problems FAIL TO REPORT THEM.   This past week was the first time I
got a bug report about 64-bit sparc using gcc and glibc (under Solaris),
and because the machine isn't ssh-able, I can't get in to try and fix it.

Is Autoconf perfect?  No.  Is it better than the alternative?
My experience is yes, Geoff's is no.  Fine.  If everyone is so concerned,
open up a dialogue with the maintainers.  Maybe you'll even get somewhere,
I can't promise anything.  But sitting off in the corner and doing
nothing but kvetching about it for sure won't see it make any progress.

Arnold


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-11-17 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-16  8:04 Aharon Robbins
2003-11-16  8:37 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-11-16 14:46   ` Charles Forsyth
2003-11-16  9:53 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-11-16 19:11 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-16 19:32   ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-11-16 21:43     ` Dan Cross
2003-11-16 23:37       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-17  0:04         ` mirtchov
2003-11-17  0:04           ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17  3:18         ` Dan Cross
2003-11-17  3:28           ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-16 21:46     ` Russ Cox
2003-11-16 22:24       ` mirtchov
2003-11-16 22:47         ` Russ Cox
2003-11-17  0:38         ` Mike Haertel
2003-11-16 22:38       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-16 22:41         ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-18 12:54         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-18 14:11           ` Russ Cox
2003-11-18 14:55             ` Joel Salomon
2003-11-17  0:24       ` Enache Adrian
2003-11-17 12:16         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 23:16           ` Taj Khattra
2003-11-16 19:58   ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17  0:30     ` [9fans] mmap (was configure misery) Geoff Collyer
2003-11-17  0:29       ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17 12:25   ` Aharon Robbins [this message]
2003-11-17  0:42 ` [9fans] Re: configure misery John Stalker
2003-11-17 12:28   ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 12:42     ` Lucio De Re
2003-11-17 12:53       ` Lucio De Re
2003-11-17 13:43         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 15:06           ` mirtchov
2003-11-17 15:35           ` David Presotto
2003-11-17 16:31       ` John Stalker
2003-11-17 17:19         ` Aharon Robbins
2004-01-30 15:30 [9fans] Re: [hangar18-general] Frustration Jim Choate
2004-02-03 17:11 ` [9fans] Re: configure misery rog
2004-02-04 16:48   ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03  3:49 Li Yi
2004-02-03 11:30 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-03 13:32   ` a
2004-02-03 15:34     ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:29       ` a
2004-02-03 14:18   ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-03 15:36     ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:32       ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-03 16:42         ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 23:53       ` David Presotto
2004-02-04  8:13     ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-03 15:33   ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:27     ` a
2004-02-03 16:44       ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:53         ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-04 16:45           ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 17:01         ` Wes Kussmaul
2004-02-04 17:47 Spamm Trapp

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