From: John Stalker <stalker@Math.Princeton.EDU>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: configure misery
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:31:28 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311171631.hAHGVToY025874@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031117144214.B15012@cackle.proxima.alt.za>
I don't know if anyone cares, but FreeBSD puts libintl and libiconv
in under /usr/local, as with everything not part of the base system.
I assume NetBSD does put them under /usr/pkg, but I am sitting at
a linux box at work, so I can't check. I actually prefer the NetBSD
convention, but I fear straying further off topic.
What I really want to comment on is the sentence ``since gawk ships
with a copy of the gettext library, use the one in the source distribution
if it can't find one on the system.'' I think that is a recipe for
disaster. The system has a working gettext. I don't want each application
linked against its own version. Yes, I know gawk is statically linked, so
it won't take up any extra space, but it is a messy solution and messy
solutions always sneak up and bite me in odd ways. I noticed that gawk
is by no means the only program which comes with an included gettext.
Even freeciv comes with one, and a configure option to enable it. At
least both gawk and freeciv have the decency not to link in their own
versions of libraries without being asked. I would argue that the
fact that you need to include a private gettext with the gawk distribution
is a symptom of a wider problem, and that autoconf is part of that problem.
I do admit that the default LDPATH on FreeBSD is another part of the problem.
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:28:09PM +0200, Aharon Robbins wrote:
> >
> > That is surprising to me. I haven't looked at FreeBSD, but this makes it
> > sound like they've put the library in some non-standard place, since the
> > machinery as distributed is supposed to be able to find it, AND, since
> > gawk ships with a copy of the gettext library, use the one in the source
> > distribution if it can't find one on the system.
> >
> > So, this is a guess only, the FreeBSD people seem to have made this work
> > for themselves.
> >
> They may have done what NetBSD did, which is to use a directory
> hierarchy for the distribution packages which is unique to them
> (/usr/pkg). You probably know this.
--
John Stalker
Department of Mathematics
Princeton University
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-17 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-16 8:04 Aharon Robbins
2003-11-16 8:37 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-11-16 14:46 ` Charles Forsyth
2003-11-16 9:53 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-11-16 19:11 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-16 19:32 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-11-16 21:43 ` Dan Cross
2003-11-16 23:37 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-17 0:04 ` mirtchov
2003-11-17 0:04 ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17 3:18 ` Dan Cross
2003-11-17 3:28 ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-16 21:46 ` Russ Cox
2003-11-16 22:24 ` mirtchov
2003-11-16 22:47 ` Russ Cox
2003-11-17 0:38 ` Mike Haertel
2003-11-16 22:38 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-16 22:41 ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-18 12:54 ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-18 14:11 ` Russ Cox
2003-11-18 14:55 ` Joel Salomon
2003-11-17 0:24 ` Enache Adrian
2003-11-17 12:16 ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 23:16 ` Taj Khattra
2003-11-16 19:58 ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17 0:30 ` [9fans] mmap (was configure misery) Geoff Collyer
2003-11-17 0:29 ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17 12:25 ` [9fans] Re: configure misery Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 0:42 ` John Stalker
2003-11-17 12:28 ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 12:42 ` Lucio De Re
2003-11-17 12:53 ` Lucio De Re
2003-11-17 13:43 ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 15:06 ` mirtchov
2003-11-17 15:35 ` David Presotto
2003-11-17 16:31 ` John Stalker [this message]
2003-11-17 17:19 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-01-30 15:30 [9fans] Re: [hangar18-general] Frustration Jim Choate
2004-02-03 17:11 ` [9fans] Re: configure misery rog
2004-02-04 16:48 ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 3:49 Li Yi
2004-02-03 11:30 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-03 13:32 ` a
2004-02-03 15:34 ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:29 ` a
2004-02-03 14:18 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-03 15:36 ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:32 ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-03 16:42 ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 23:53 ` David Presotto
2004-02-04 8:13 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-03 15:33 ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:27 ` a
2004-02-03 16:44 ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:53 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-04 16:45 ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 17:01 ` Wes Kussmaul
2004-02-04 17:47 Spamm Trapp
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