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From: John Stalker <stalker@Math.Princeton.EDU>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: configure misery
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 11:31:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311171631.hAHGVToY025874@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031117144214.B15012@cackle.proxima.alt.za>


I don't know if anyone cares, but FreeBSD puts libintl and libiconv
in under /usr/local, as with everything not part of the base system.
I assume NetBSD does put them under /usr/pkg, but I am sitting at
a linux box at work, so I can't check.  I actually prefer the NetBSD
convention, but I fear straying further off topic.

What I really want to comment on is the sentence ``since gawk ships
with a copy of the gettext library, use the one in the source distribution
if it can't find one on the system.''  I think that is a recipe for
disaster.  The system has a working gettext.  I don't want each application
linked against its own version.  Yes, I know gawk is statically linked, so
it won't take up any extra space, but it is a messy solution and messy
solutions always sneak up and bite me in odd ways.  I noticed that gawk
is by no means the only program which comes with an included gettext.
Even freeciv comes with one, and a configure option to enable it.  At
least both gawk and freeciv have the decency not to link in their own
versions of libraries without being asked.  I would argue that the
fact that you need to include a private gettext with the gawk distribution
is a symptom of a wider problem, and that autoconf is part of that problem.
I do admit that the default LDPATH on FreeBSD is another part of the problem.

> On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 02:28:09PM +0200, Aharon Robbins wrote:
> >
> > That is surprising to me.  I haven't looked at FreeBSD, but this makes it
> > sound like they've put the library in some non-standard place, since the
> > machinery as distributed is supposed to be able to find it, AND, since
> > gawk ships with a copy of the gettext library, use the one in the source
> > distribution if it can't find one on the system.
> >
> > So, this is a guess only, the FreeBSD people seem to have made this work
> > for themselves.
> >
> They may have done what NetBSD did, which is to use a directory
> hierarchy for the distribution packages which is unique to them
> (/usr/pkg).  You probably know this.
--
John Stalker
Department of Mathematics
Princeton University
(609)258-6469


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-11-17 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-16  8:04 Aharon Robbins
2003-11-16  8:37 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-11-16 14:46   ` Charles Forsyth
2003-11-16  9:53 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-11-16 19:11 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-16 19:32   ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-11-16 21:43     ` Dan Cross
2003-11-16 23:37       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-17  0:04         ` mirtchov
2003-11-17  0:04           ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17  3:18         ` Dan Cross
2003-11-17  3:28           ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-16 21:46     ` Russ Cox
2003-11-16 22:24       ` mirtchov
2003-11-16 22:47         ` Russ Cox
2003-11-17  0:38         ` Mike Haertel
2003-11-16 22:38       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-16 22:41         ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-18 12:54         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-18 14:11           ` Russ Cox
2003-11-18 14:55             ` Joel Salomon
2003-11-17  0:24       ` Enache Adrian
2003-11-17 12:16         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 23:16           ` Taj Khattra
2003-11-16 19:58   ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17  0:30     ` [9fans] mmap (was configure misery) Geoff Collyer
2003-11-17  0:29       ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17 12:25   ` [9fans] Re: configure misery Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17  0:42 ` John Stalker
2003-11-17 12:28   ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 12:42     ` Lucio De Re
2003-11-17 12:53       ` Lucio De Re
2003-11-17 13:43         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 15:06           ` mirtchov
2003-11-17 15:35           ` David Presotto
2003-11-17 16:31       ` John Stalker [this message]
2003-11-17 17:19         ` Aharon Robbins
2004-01-30 15:30 [9fans] Re: [hangar18-general] Frustration Jim Choate
2004-02-03 17:11 ` [9fans] Re: configure misery rog
2004-02-04 16:48   ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03  3:49 Li Yi
2004-02-03 11:30 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-03 13:32   ` a
2004-02-03 15:34     ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:29       ` a
2004-02-03 14:18   ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-03 15:36     ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:32       ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-03 16:42         ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 23:53       ` David Presotto
2004-02-04  8:13     ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-03 15:33   ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:27     ` a
2004-02-03 16:44       ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:53         ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-04 16:45           ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 17:01         ` Wes Kussmaul
2004-02-04 17:47 Spamm Trapp

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