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From: Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@orthanc.ca>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: configure misery
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 16:37:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2147483647.1069000663@[192.168.42.6]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200311162143.hAGLhel18843@augusta.math.psu.edu>

--On Sunday, November 16, 2003 4:43 PM -0500 Dan Cross
<cross@math.psu.edu> wrote:

> The thing is, the BSD source code isn't that much better than the GNU
> stuff, especially now.  It seems to be growing without bound.

This isn't specific to just BSD and GNU. It's a general problem
attributable to the large number of new programmers who haven't been
mentored by people who understand the elegance of uncomplicated code
and tools. This feeds upon itself, and once it reaches critical mass....

Retreating into plan9 is a way to avoid dealing with this problem, but
if nobody teaches these folks the error of their ways, how can it ever
stop? I don't think most of us have the energy to attempt that any
more. (Or in my case, the patience.)

--lyndon



  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-16 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-16  8:04 Aharon Robbins
2003-11-16  8:37 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-11-16 14:46   ` Charles Forsyth
2003-11-16  9:53 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-11-16 19:11 ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-16 19:32   ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-11-16 21:43     ` Dan Cross
2003-11-16 23:37       ` Lyndon Nerenberg [this message]
2003-11-17  0:04         ` mirtchov
2003-11-17  0:04           ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17  3:18         ` Dan Cross
2003-11-17  3:28           ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-16 21:46     ` Russ Cox
2003-11-16 22:24       ` mirtchov
2003-11-16 22:47         ` Russ Cox
2003-11-17  0:38         ` Mike Haertel
2003-11-16 22:38       ` Lyndon Nerenberg
2003-11-16 22:41         ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-18 12:54         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-18 14:11           ` Russ Cox
2003-11-18 14:55             ` Joel Salomon
2003-11-17  0:24       ` Enache Adrian
2003-11-17 12:16         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 23:16           ` Taj Khattra
2003-11-16 19:58   ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17  0:30     ` [9fans] mmap (was configure misery) Geoff Collyer
2003-11-17  0:29       ` boyd, rounin
2003-11-17 12:25   ` [9fans] Re: configure misery Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17  0:42 ` John Stalker
2003-11-17 12:28   ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 12:42     ` Lucio De Re
2003-11-17 12:53       ` Lucio De Re
2003-11-17 13:43         ` Aharon Robbins
2003-11-17 15:06           ` mirtchov
2003-11-17 15:35           ` David Presotto
2003-11-17 16:31       ` John Stalker
2003-11-17 17:19         ` Aharon Robbins
2004-01-30 15:30 [9fans] Re: [hangar18-general] Frustration Jim Choate
2004-02-03 17:11 ` [9fans] Re: configure misery rog
2004-02-04 16:48   ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03  3:49 Li Yi
2004-02-03 11:30 ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-03 13:32   ` a
2004-02-03 15:34     ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:29       ` a
2004-02-03 14:18   ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-03 15:36     ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:32       ` boyd, rounin
2004-02-03 16:42         ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 23:53       ` David Presotto
2004-02-04  8:13     ` Aharon Robbins
2004-02-03 15:33   ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:27     ` a
2004-02-03 16:44       ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 16:53         ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-02-04 16:45           ` Jim Choate
2004-02-03 17:01         ` Wes Kussmaul
2004-02-04 17:47 Spamm Trapp

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