Re: [9fans] Install from CD fails

[Roman Shaposhnick <rvs@sun.com>]

On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 05:30:12AM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Wed Apr 19 23:03:19 CDT 2006, rvs@sun.com wrote:
> >   I think Tcl has struck a nice balance here -- everything is a command
> >   taking a number of arguments. Or are you talking about a different
> >   sort of interface ?
>
> i mean the dynamic module interface.
>
> >
> > > 2. what hooks are provided by the shell.  the "es" shell provided a hook
> > > for darn near every language construct there was.  for example, it was possible
> > > to redefine globbing, piping, the if statement, etc.
> >
> >   That is a bit too much, in my oppinion. I think what the 'core' shell
> >   is supposed to do is provide a nice glue for the rest of the dynamic
> >   functionality. Sort of like file system is a universal glue for every
> >   other application running on the system. I would say that this is the
> >   most challenging aspect of designing my dream 'shell' -- the glue is
> >   supposed to be easy enough for me to understand, yet powerful enough
> >   to express simple things in simple terms. Tcl comes pretty close
> >   to being that glue.
>
> give it a try:
> 	ftp://ftp.sys.toronto.edu/pub/es/es-0.9-beta1.tar.gz
> it is very interesting, if not completely successful.

 I most certainly will. Thanks a lot.

> i'm probablly on my own in this, but tcl is just strange, and its
> linux implementation never ceases to annoy, and it's way too big.
> since when is \t anything other than whitespace?  (python, unfortunately, did
> the same thing).  when i try to "man -k" on a system with tcl,
> i get a hundred of useless tcl/tk commands.

  Yeap. In fact, I still don't understand why $ man foo/bar doesn't do
  what I perceive to be the right thing...

Thanks,
Roman.