Re: [9fans] Install from CD fails

[erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>]

On Wed Apr 19 23:03:19 CDT 2006, rvs@sun.com wrote:
>   I think Tcl has struck a nice balance here -- everything is a command
>   taking a number of arguments. Or are you talking about a different
>   sort of interface ?

i mean the dynamic module interface.

>
> > 2. what hooks are provided by the shell.  the "es" shell provided a hook
> > for darn near every language construct there was.  for example, it was possible
> > to redefine globbing, piping, the if statement, etc.
>
>   That is a bit too much, in my oppinion. I think what the 'core' shell
>   is supposed to do is provide a nice glue for the rest of the dynamic
>   functionality. Sort of like file system is a universal glue for every
>   other application running on the system. I would say that this is the
>   most challenging aspect of designing my dream 'shell' -- the glue is
>   supposed to be easy enough for me to understand, yet powerful enough
>   to express simple things in simple terms. Tcl comes pretty close
>   to being that glue.

give it a try:
	ftp://ftp.sys.toronto.edu/pub/es/es-0.9-beta1.tar.gz
it is very interesting, if not completely successful.

i'm probablly on my own in this, but tcl is just strange, and its
linux implementation never ceases to annoy, and it's way too big.
since when is \t anything other than whitespace?  (python, unfortunately, did
the same thing).  when i try to "man -k" on a system with tcl,
i get a hundred of useless tcl/tk commands.

- erik