[9fans] Parallels 5

[9fans] Parallels 5

[Daniel Lyons]

I have a rather old VM that I made under Parallels 3 that seems to work under Parallels 5. I think I installed that one in late 2009 or early 2010. As an experiment, I tried installing the current release under Parallels 5. It installs, and pretty quickly (<5 min), but there are two small issues:

1. ps2intellimouse: scrolling works if you're scrolling down, but if you make the scroll up gesture, the mouse skitters off to the right and really doesn't scroll back up. Anyone seen this or have a tricky solution?

2. Ethernet card is not detected. I am not 100% sure there's nothing different in the configuration, but I've made the plan9.ini look the same in both VMs and still it fails to detect the NE2000 emulated ethernet card. There are also ominous messages about usbd: no hub during bootup that don't happen under the old one.

Is there a boot log somewhere I can examine for messages I may not have seen, or any other debugging information I can go looking for?

I'm downloading 9atom to compare tomorrow.

Thanks,

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Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[Anthony Sorace]

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I have a VM that I created under Parallels 5 and am currently running under 6. It's several months old.

> 1. ps2intellimouse: scrolling works if you're scrolling down, but if you make the scroll up gesture, the mouse skitters off to the right and really doesn't scroll back up. Anyone seen this or have a tricky solution?

I saw this for the first time today. In my case, scrolling up *also* creates occasional b2 presses. Weird. I haven't used the GUI on Parallels much for two years, so I can't help with when it was introduced.

> 2. Ethernet card is not detected. I am not 100% sure there's nothing different in the configuration, but I've made the plan9.ini look the same in both VMs and still it fails to detect the NE2000 emulated ethernet card. There are also ominous messages about usbd: no hub during bootup that don't happen under the old one.

Ethernet works here (and did under Parallels 5, as well), and I've got nothing in plan9.ini to trick it. You don't see the device at all (not just no data or whatnot)?

> Is there a boot log somewhere I can examine for messages I may not have seen, or any other debugging information I can go looking for?

/dev/kmesg will give you the console prints so far; /dev/kprint will wait for new ones (and prevent them going to your actual console).


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Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[Daniel Lyons]

On May 6, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote:

> I have a VM that I created under Parallels 5 and am currently running under 6. It's several months old.

I seem to have gotten my version numbers mixed up. It's Parallels 6 over here as well.

>> 1. ps2intellimouse: scrolling works if you're scrolling down, but if you make the scroll up gesture, the mouse skitters off to the right and really doesn't scroll back up. Anyone seen this or have a tricky solution?
> 
> I saw this for the first time today. In my case, scrolling up *also* creates occasional b2 presses. Weird. I haven't used the GUI on Parallels much for two years, so I can't help with when it was introduced.
> 
>> 2. Ethernet card is not detected. I am not 100% sure there's nothing different in the configuration, but I've made the plan9.ini look the same in both VMs and still it fails to detect the NE2000 emulated ethernet card. There are also ominous messages about usbd: no hub during bootup that don't happen under the old one.
> 
> Ethernet works here (and did under Parallels 5, as well), and I've got nothing in plan9.ini to trick it. You don't see the device at all (not just no data or whatnot)?

There's no /net/ether0, so I can't run ip/ipconfig to get any further.

>> Is there a boot log somewhere I can examine for messages I may not have seen, or any other debugging information I can go looking for?
> 
> /dev/kmesg will give you the console prints so far; /dev/kprint will wait for new ones (and prevent them going to your actual console).

I don't see anything interesting there, except that it couldn't initialize usbd. Does usbd work for you?

— 
Daniel Lyons

Re: [9fans] Parallels 6

[Daniel Lyons]

On May 6, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
>> 2. Ethernet card is not detected. I am not 100% sure there's nothing different in the configuration, but I've made the plan9.ini look the same in both VMs and still it fails to detect the NE2000 emulated ethernet card. There are also ominous messages about usbd: no hub during bootup that don't happen under the old one.
> 
> Ethernet works here (and did under Parallels 5, as well), and I've got nothing in plan9.ini to trick it. You don't see the device at all (not just no data or whatnot)?

No device at all. In frustration, I added the following to my plan9.ini:

*noetherprobe=1
ether0=ne2000

This had no effect either. I didn't have to do anything interesting for the old image either, I don't think.

>> Is there a boot log somewhere I can examine for messages I may not have seen, or any other debugging information I can go looking for?
> 
> /dev/kmesg will give you the console prints so far; /dev/kprint will wait for new ones (and prevent them going to your actual console).

OK, so after so many bytes free, I get this:

cpu0: 2671MHz GenuineIntel Core i5 (cpuid: AX 0x20655 DX 0x1F8BFBFF)
ELCR: 0E80
256M memory: 105M kernel data, 151M user, 574M swap
usbinit...usbd..../boot/usbd: /dev/usb: no hubs
no usbd...no usb disk...auth...usbinit...usbd.../boot/usbd: /dev/usb: no hubs
no usbd...no usb disk...mount usbd...boot: can't open /srv/usb: '/srv/usb' file does not exist
time...
fossil(#S/sdC0/fossil)...version...time...
can't stat /srv/parts.sdXX: '/srv/partfs.sdXX' file does not exist

init: starting /bin/rc

And that's it, nothing particularly interesting. What else can I do to debug this?

Thanks,

— 
Daniel Lyons

[9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

[Joel C. Salomon]

My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one.  I figure I'd
like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to install it
beneath a VM in whatever machine I buy.  I'm even considering Windows
7 Pro with Virtual PC, but I think I'd prefer Xen or one of the
Linux-based things (VirtualBox, etc.).

Ease of installation is important, as is the ability to run a somewhat
normal (Windows or Linux) host OS.  Are there any recommendations?

—Joel

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

[Federico G. Benavento]

vmware, the rest just suck, qemu and virtual box being
the slowest

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon <joelcsalomon@gmail.com> wrote:
> My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one.  I figure I'd
> like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to install it
> beneath a VM in whatever machine I buy.  I'm even considering Windows
> 7 Pro with Virtual PC, but I think I'd prefer Xen or one of the
> Linux-based things (VirtualBox, etc.).
>
> Ease of installation is important, as is the ability to run a somewhat
> normal (Windows or Linux) host OS.  Are there any recommendations?
>
> —Joel
>
>



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Federico G. Benavento

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

[Rodolfo (kix)]

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I am agreed with Federico,

vmware. Do not spend time with other emulators.


El 15 de abr de 2010, 9:02 p.m., "Federico G. Benavento" <
benavento@gmail.com> escribió:

vmware, the rest just suck, qemu and virtual box being
the slowest

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon <joelcsalomon@gmail.com>
wrote: > My computer died...
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Federico G. Benavento

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Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

[James Chapman]

This afternoon I downloaded a trial version of VM Fusion (Version
3.0.2 (232708)) and a fresh plan9.iso.bz2 and installed it on my core
2 due macbook running OS X Leopard (Version 10.5.8).

It works quite nicely, graphics and networking are both working. The
only things that tripped me up were I had to delete the IDE emulating
hard disk image and create a SCSI emulating before installation and
choose xga instead of the usual vesa for the screen.

I have had parallels working on several occasions in the past but a
recent attempt to get it working again failed. I couldn't even get it
to boot the installer.

James

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Rodolfo (kix) <kix@kix.es> wrote:
> I am agreed with Federico,
>
> vmware. Do not spend time with other emulators.
>
> El 15 de abr de 2010, 9:02 p.m., "Federico G.  Benavento"
> <benavento@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> vmware, the rest just suck, qemu and virtual box being
> the slowest
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon <joelcsalomon@gmail.com>
> wrote: > My computer died...
>
> --
> Federico G. Benavento
>
>

[9fans] Parallels 5

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

> I have had parallels working on several occasions in the past but a
> recent attempt to get it working again failed. I couldn't even get it
> to boot the installer.

I just did a Parallels 5 on Snow Leopard a few days ago. To get anywhere
you have to use a 9atom ISO. I have a terminal instance installed but
haven't had time to do any serious banging on it. I have noticed that
twice now 9pcf has panicked while the VM instance was sitting idle. I
don't remember the panic message, but I should be able to reproduce it
easily enough.

--lyndon

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

Also, "echo -n 'accelerated 0' > /dev/mousectl" is required to get the
mouse under control.

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[erik quanstrom]

On Fri Apr 16 15:57:33 EDT 2010, lyndon@orthanc.ca wrote:
> Also, "echo -n 'accelerated 0' > /dev/mousectl" is required to get the
> mouse under control.
>

i've turned off mouse accelleration completely in 9atom.  i do
the multplication in the kernel, rather than relying on the
mouse to do it correctly.  i've found that kvms tend to screw
this part of the protocol up.  and really, why go to the trouble
of programming a mouse to do a multiplication?

- erik

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[erik quanstrom]

> I just did a Parallels 5 on Snow Leopard a few days ago. To get anywhere
> you have to use a 9atom ISO. I have a terminal instance installed but
> haven't had time to do any serious banging on it. I have noticed that
> twice now 9pcf has panicked while the VM instance was sitting idle. I
> don't remember the panic message, but I should be able to reproduce it
> easily enough.

please send the panic message.  would like to fix.

- erik

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[Lyndon Nerenberg]

> please send the panic message.  would like to fix.

panic: kernel fault: no user process pc=0xf01f047b addr=0x000002cc
panic: kernel fault: no user process pc=0xf01f047b addr=0x000002cc
dumpstack disabled
cpu0: exiting

(the panic line does print twice)

--lyndon

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[erik quanstrom]

On Fri Apr 16 16:55:02 EDT 2010, lyndon@orthanc.ca wrote:
> > please send the panic message.  would like to fix.
>
> panic: kernel fault: no user process pc=0xf01f047b addr=0x000002cc
> panic: kernel fault: no user process pc=0xf01f047b addr=0x000002cc
> dumpstack disabled
> cpu0: exiting
>
> (the panic line does print twice)

please turn off *nodumpstack.  i'll need a full backtrace.
error is being called from an interrupt.

- erik

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[Francisco J Ballesteros]

hmm. I'm using parallels 5 on leopard (not snow) and it works just fine with the
std distribution.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:04 PM, erik quanstrom
<quanstro@labs.coraid.com> wrote:
> On Fri Apr 16 16:55:02 EDT 2010, lyndon@orthanc.ca wrote:
>> > please send the panic message.  would like to fix.
>>
>> panic: kernel fault: no user process pc=0xf01f047b addr=0x000002cc
>> panic: kernel fault: no user process pc=0xf01f047b addr=0x000002cc
>> dumpstack disabled
>> cpu0: exiting
>>
>> (the panic line does print twice)
>
> please turn off *nodumpstack.  i'll need a full backtrace.
> error is being called from an interrupt.
>
> - erik
>
>

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[erik quanstrom]

On Fri Apr 16 18:15:29 EDT 2010, nemo@lsub.org wrote:
> hmm. I'm using parallels 5 on leopard (not snow) and it works just fine with the
> std distribution.
>

according to my sources, parallels is a virtualizer, not an
emulator, so your milage may depend on your hardware.

- erik

Re: [9fans] Parallels 5

[erik quanstrom]

On Fri Apr 16 16:51:50 EDT 2010, lyndon@orthanc.ca wrote:
> > please send the panic message.  would like to fix.
>
> panic: kernel fault: no user process pc=0xf01f047b addr=0x000002cc
> panic: kernel fault: no user process pc=0xf01f047b addr=0x000002cc
> dumpstack disabled
> cpu0: exiting
>
> (the panic line does print twice)

looks like the vesa emulation barfs on screen blanking.
in parallels.  wierd.

the distribution doesn't have vesa screen blanking and
it is called from interrupt context (mouseclock).

here's a fix for that bug

ladd; diffy -c vgavesa.c
/n/dump/2010/0416/sys/src/9/pc/vgavesa.c:167,173 - vgavesa.c:167,176
  		u.bx = 0x0101;
  	else
  		u.bx = 0x0001;
- 	vbecall(&u);
+ 	if(!waserror()){
+ 		vbecall(&u);
+ 		poperror();
+ 	}
  }

- erik