* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... @ 2012-03-20 12:33 Nicolas Bercher 2012-03-20 13:32 ` Calvin Morrison 2012-03-20 14:10 ` Charles Forsyth 0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Bercher @ 2012-03-20 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? Nicolas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 12:33 [9fans] nice terminal Nicolas Bercher @ 2012-03-20 13:32 ` Calvin Morrison 2012-03-20 21:34 ` Stephen Wiley 2012-04-01 13:21 ` Paweł Lasek 2012-03-20 14:10 ` Charles Forsyth 1 sibling, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Calvin Morrison @ 2012-03-20 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 539 bytes --] I was just thinking about this while drinking my coffee. A few perspective problems : 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. 2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the GPU or something crazy. 3. No cd-rom drive to do a CD install. Probably easy to work around (I've only installed it this way) Calvin On Mar 20, 2012 8:35 AM, "Nicolas Bercher" <nbercher@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? > > Nicolas > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 814 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 13:32 ` Calvin Morrison @ 2012-03-20 21:34 ` Stephen Wiley 2012-04-01 13:21 ` Paweł Lasek 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Stephen Wiley @ 2012-03-20 21:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 629 bytes --] I've been thinking about this for a while as well (I don't have one yet though... so I haven't gone far beyond thinking) On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. > There is a RiscOS port, perhaps that has something... > 2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the GPU or something crazy. > Perhaps we could port 9load to RiscOS? (like the pc version on dos) It sounds like a simple cooperative multitasking os, but I'm no expert. I'm hoping to mess with this when mine ships (again, supposedly in may). [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 931 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 13:32 ` Calvin Morrison 2012-03-20 21:34 ` Stephen Wiley @ 2012-04-01 13:21 ` Paweł Lasek 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Paweł Lasek @ 2012-04-01 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 13:32, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@gmail.com> wrote: > I was just thinking about this while drinking my coffee. > > A few perspective problems : > > 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. The 3D part is - simple framebuffer should work, afaik. > 2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the GPU > or something crazy. Not really - it's just that the GPU contains the controller chip, and the first stage bootloader is thus written in it. It will happily load anything that has Linux-style header and resides on first, FAT-formatted dos partition on the SD card, afaik. > 3. No cd-rom drive to do a CD install. Probably easy to work around (I've > only installed it this way) See above :) > Calvin -- Paweł Lasek pawel.lasek@gmail.com pawel.lasek.08@aberdeen.ac.uk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 12:33 [9fans] nice terminal Nicolas Bercher 2012-03-20 13:32 ` Calvin Morrison @ 2012-03-20 14:10 ` Charles Forsyth 2012-03-20 14:19 ` Richard Miller ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2012-03-20 14:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 293 bytes --] You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and the blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). On 20 March 2012 12:33, Nicolas Bercher <nbercher@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 524 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 14:10 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2012-03-20 14:19 ` Richard Miller 2012-03-20 15:52 ` erik quanstrom 2012-03-20 16:03 ` David Leimbach 2012-03-20 14:59 ` Nicolas Bercher 2012-04-22 15:08 ` Jeffrey Green 2 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Richard Miller @ 2012-03-20 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > My delivery note says "May" You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 14:19 ` Richard Miller @ 2012-03-20 15:52 ` erik quanstrom 2012-03-20 16:03 ` David Leimbach 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: erik quanstrom @ 2012-03-20 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans On Tue Mar 20 10:20:16 EDT 2012, 9fans@hamnavoe.com wrote: > > My delivery note says "May" > > You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto > the pre-order queue. ooooh you're lucky. ... probablly the little jailies' pet, aren't we? what i wouldn't give to be on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue. i don't really want one. just couldn't resist the reference. :-) - erik ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 14:19 ` Richard Miller 2012-03-20 15:52 ` erik quanstrom @ 2012-03-20 16:03 ` David Leimbach 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: David Leimbach @ 2012-03-20 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 316 bytes --] On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Richard Miller <9fans@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > My delivery note says "May" > > You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto > the pre-order queue. > > > Luxury! There were four of us living in a brown paper bag in a septic tank... (sorry couldn't resist) [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 622 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 14:10 ` Charles Forsyth 2012-03-20 14:19 ` Richard Miller @ 2012-03-20 14:59 ` Nicolas Bercher 2012-04-22 15:08 ` Jeffrey Green 2 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Bercher @ 2012-03-20 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans Le 20/03/2012 15:10, Charles Forsyth a écrit : > You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and the blog > said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). OK, I'll wait. For sure this device will stimulate some Plan 9 users! Nicolas ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-03-20 14:10 ` Charles Forsyth 2012-03-20 14:19 ` Richard Miller 2012-03-20 14:59 ` Nicolas Bercher @ 2012-04-22 15:08 ` Jeffrey Green 2012-04-22 15:17 ` Tristan 2 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Green @ 2012-04-22 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more and more tempting these days, especially since "official" delivery seems to have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of one to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest hurdle. What tools do we have to work with in that situation? -jeff On Mar 20, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > You have to have got one first. My delivery note says "May" and the blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). > > On 20 March 2012 12:33, Nicolas Bercher <nbercher@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 15:08 ` Jeffrey Green @ 2012-04-22 15:17 ` Tristan 2012-04-22 15:22 ` Devon H. O'Dell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Tristan @ 2012-04-22 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 9fans > So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more and > more tempting these days, especially since "official" delivery seems to > have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of one > to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest > hurdle. Not to stop anyone, but I hear getting documentation from Broadcom is a bit of a painful project all in itself. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 15:17 ` Tristan @ 2012-04-22 15:22 ` Devon H. O'Dell 2012-04-22 15:47 ` Jeffrey Green 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Devon H. O'Dell @ 2012-04-22 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 813 bytes --] It's not easy even if you make appliances and sell a good number of their NICs. At a company where I worked a few years ago, we had a performance problem and it took us months to get any datasheets. When that didn't help, it took us about the same amount of time to get errata. It is not fun. --dho On Apr 22, 2012 11:19 AM, "Tristan" <9p-st@imu.li> wrote: > > So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more and > > more tempting these days, especially since "official" delivery seems to > > have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of one > > to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest > > hurdle. > > Not to stop anyone, but I hear getting documentation from Broadcom is a > bit of a painful project all in itself. > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1101 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 15:22 ` Devon H. O'Dell @ 2012-04-22 15:47 ` Jeffrey Green 2012-04-22 16:22 ` Charles Forsyth 2012-04-22 21:30 ` Bakul Shah 0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Green @ 2012-04-22 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > It's not easy even if you make appliances and sell a good number of their NICs. At a company where I worked a few years ago, we had a performance problem and it took us months to get any datasheets. When that didn't help, it took us about the same amount of time to get errata. > > It is not fun. I'm assuming the proprietary stuff that is the hurdle here is a ROM based boot sequence (and language). I would think that the ARM processor architecture is standard. If so about the ROM, is the general public completely in the dark about it? -jeff > > So, a month has gone by and a slice of raspberry pi is looking more and > > more tempting these days, especially since "official" delivery seems to > > have happened last week. Has anyone yet chanced an introduction of one > > to plan9? I would guess the initial booting would be the biggest > > hurdle. > > Not to stop anyone, but I hear getting documentation from Broadcom is a > bit of a painful project all in itself. > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 15:47 ` Jeffrey Green @ 2012-04-22 16:22 ` Charles Forsyth 2012-04-22 17:40 ` Jeff Sickel 2012-04-22 21:30 ` Bakul Shah 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Charles Forsyth @ 2012-04-22 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 395 bytes --] I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in films: "The Broadcom Errata" (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give the location of a Broadcom data sheet. We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 476 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 16:22 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2012-04-22 17:40 ` Jeff Sickel 2012-04-22 18:02 ` Devon H. O'Dell 2012-04-22 23:22 ` Strake 0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Jeff Sickel @ 2012-04-22 17:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in films: > "The Broadcom Errata" > (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give the > location of a Broadcom data sheet. > We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the > errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they > had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 17:40 ` Jeff Sickel @ 2012-04-22 18:02 ` Devon H. O'Dell 2012-04-22 23:22 ` Strake 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Devon H. O'Dell @ 2012-04-22 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 774 bytes --] Glenda Python and the Search for the Holy Broadcom Specs On Apr 22, 2012 1:42 PM, "Jeff Sickel" <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: > Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little > radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > > I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in films: > > "The Broadcom Errata" > > (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give > the > > location of a Broadcom data sheet. > > We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the > > errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they > > had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1093 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 17:40 ` Jeff Sickel 2012-04-22 18:02 ` Devon H. O'Dell @ 2012-04-22 23:22 ` Strake 2012-04-22 23:53 ` Joseph Stewart 1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Strake @ 2012-04-22 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: > Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little > radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > >> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in films: >> "The Broadcom Errata" >> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give >> the >> location of a Broadcom data sheet. >> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the >> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they >> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 23:22 ` Strake @ 2012-04-22 23:53 ` Joseph Stewart 2012-04-23 2:51 ` Bruce Ellis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Joseph Stewart @ 2012-04-22 23:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1051 bytes --] The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my current job (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal shackles). Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame. -joe On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake <strake888@gmail.com> wrote: > On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: > > Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little > > radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. > > > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > > >> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in > films: > >> "The Broadcom Errata" > >> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give > >> the > >> location of a Broadcom data sheet. > >> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the > >> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they > >> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") > > I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1680 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 23:53 ` Joseph Stewart @ 2012-04-23 2:51 ` Bruce Ellis 2012-04-23 14:07 ` Jeffrey Green 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Bruce Ellis @ 2012-04-23 2:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs "John Connor uses his 26th century technology to travel back in time, insisting that Sarah's destiny will be thwarted if she does not take the errata to the desert. They blow things up - not many dead. Sarah latches onto a Cyborg open wifi and summons - a sequel." On 23 April 2012 09:53, Joseph Stewart <joseph.stewart@gmail.com> wrote: > The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my current job > (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal shackles). > > Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame. > > -joe > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake <strake888@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: >> > Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little >> > radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. >> > >> > On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: >> > >> >> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in >> >> films: >> >> "The Broadcom Errata" >> >> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give >> >> the >> >> location of a Broadcom data sheet. >> >> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the >> >> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they >> >> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") >> >> I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. >> > -- Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-23 2:51 ` Bruce Ellis @ 2012-04-23 14:07 ` Jeffrey Green 2012-04-23 14:20 ` Matthew Veety 0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread From: Jeffrey Green @ 2012-04-23 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > "John Connor uses his 26th century technology to travel back in time, > insisting that Sarah's destiny will be thwarted if she does not take > the errata to the desert. They blow things up - not many dead. Sarah > latches onto a Cyborg open wifi and summons - a sequel." That may be a hard sell to Disney these days.... > > On 23 April 2012 09:53, Joseph Stewart <joseph.stewart@gmail.com> wrote: >> The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my current job >> (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal shackles). >> >> Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame. >> >> -joe >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake <strake888@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: >>>> Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little >>>> radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. >>>> >>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: >>>> >>>>> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in >>>>> films: >>>>> "The Broadcom Errata" >>>>> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give >>>>> the >>>>> location of a Broadcom data sheet. >>>>> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the >>>>> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they >>>>> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") >>> >>> I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. >>> >> > > > > -- > Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE) > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-23 14:07 ` Jeffrey Green @ 2012-04-23 14:20 ` Matthew Veety 0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Matthew Veety @ 2012-04-23 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1965 bytes --] On Apr 23, 2012 10:07 AM, "Jeffrey Green" <atallj@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > > "John Connor uses his 26th century technology to travel back in time, > > insisting that Sarah's destiny will be thwarted if she does not take > > the errata to the desert. They blow things up - not many dead. Sarah > > latches onto a Cyborg open wifi and summons - a sequel." > > That may be a hard sell to Disney these days.... > > > > > On 23 April 2012 09:53, Joseph Stewart <joseph.stewart@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The whole Broadcom licensing thing is a major pain at my current job > >> (although my overlords probably have equally painful legal shackles). > >> > >> Not being able to see data sheets is pretty lame. > >> > >> -joe > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Strake <strake888@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 22/04/2012, Jeff Sickel <jas@corpus-callosum.com> wrote: > >>>> Sign me up as a reviewer for your next theatrical production. A little > >>>> radio, streaming audio, or even a youtube screening will suffice. > >>>> > >>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I always hope to see things like this appearing as the McGuffin in > >>>>> films: > >>>>> "The Broadcom Errata" > >>>>> (``Look! I've decoded the cryptogram in the K&R Code. It seems to give > >>>>> the > >>>>> location of a Broadcom data sheet. > >>>>> We thought they'd all been lost or destroyed!'' ``If it also has the > >>>>> errata, it would be priceless! That explains why they > >>>>> had to kill Fletcher to shut up his open source project.") > >>> > >>> I hope that 9fans will get the casting call. > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE) > > > > nah it has everything Disney loves: time travel, shitty story, and an instant sequal. Add some princesses and you're good to go. -- Veety [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2929 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2012-04-22 15:47 ` Jeffrey Green 2012-04-22 16:22 ` Charles Forsyth @ 2012-04-22 21:30 ` Bakul Shah 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Bakul Shah @ 2012-04-22 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs On Apr 22, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Jeffrey Green <atallj@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm assuming the proprietary stuff that is the hurdle here is a ROM based boot sequence (and language). I would think that the ARM processor architecture is standard. If so about the ROM, is the general public completely in the dark about it? There are is a binary containing the code that runs on the GPU; this is loaded by the boot loader on the GPU. Then there are libGLES.so and friends that link with your openGL ES Linux app. Not much different from what NVidia does. The "kernel" is also booted by the GPU. In some ways this is simpler. To allow kernel choice at run time, the GPU loaded "kernel" could be 9load or grub or something. Linux driver to talk to the GPU is open source & CPU-GPU message types to implement a dumb frame buffer are documented so getting up /dev/draw shouldn't be hard. There is a schematic for the board and a separate spec for peripherals - GPIO, UART, PWM, etc etc. So a port should be no worse than to other ARM based SBCs. And once a port is done, you can have a ready to run SDHC card - no more fighting with installing plan9! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* [9fans] nice terminal... @ 2011-05-06 22:15 Gorka Guardiola 2011-05-06 22:35 ` Jason Dreisbach 2011-05-07 1:32 ` Skip Tavakkolian 0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Gorka Guardiola @ 2011-05-06 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 35 bytes --] http://www.raspberrypi.org/ G. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 89 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2011-05-06 22:15 Gorka Guardiola @ 2011-05-06 22:35 ` Jason Dreisbach 2011-05-07 1:32 ` Skip Tavakkolian 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Jason Dreisbach @ 2011-05-06 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 214 bytes --] I saw this as well. I hope it becomes a reality. $25 seems like a bit of a stretch though. - Jason On May 6, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Gorka Guardiola <paurea@gmail.com> wrote: http://www.raspberrypi.org/ G. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 492 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
* Re: [9fans] nice terminal... 2011-05-06 22:15 Gorka Guardiola 2011-05-06 22:35 ` Jason Dreisbach @ 2011-05-07 1:32 ` Skip Tavakkolian 1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2011-05-07 1:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs GuruPlug display is actually very practical and usable with the stock linux and drawterm. if graphics was natively supported under Plan 9, it too would make a nice terminal. I've noticed that Android based pads and tablets are getting cheaper -- about $150 for some. It might be interesting to port Inferno or Plan9 to these. -Skip On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Gorka Guardiola <paurea@gmail.com> wrote: > http://www.raspberrypi.org/ > > G. > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 25+ messages in thread
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