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From: Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@sun.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 2009 09:44:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8214DB3A-3368-4B61-B0CD-BAC5F2BE7271@sun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b3f8874fbb5ead75e41d071391448e9@quanstro.net>

There's been a *lot* of speculation on this thread and very little fact.
I'd encourage everybody to play with the feature before forming
any kind of final judgement.

On Sep 3, 2009, at 8:52 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> Did you even read the article or any of the examples? There are
>> plenty
>> of things that you can "do" with blocks that you can't with just
>> function pointers. That's besides the fact that some of them are more
>> elegantly expressed with blocks that look sort of ugly with function
>> pointers.
>
> on the other hand, apple says this is illegal

Where exactly does it say that?

>        dispatch_block_t p;
>
> 	if(cond){
> 		p =^ { print("cond\n"); };
> 	}else{
> 		p =^ { print("cond\n"); };
> 	}
> 	p();
>
> since the first part is equivalent to
>
> 	if(cond){
> 		struct Block _t = ...;
> 		p = &_t;
> 	}

I'm pretty sure Apple's compiler is smart enough to allow the
construct that
you've just mentioned. In fact, I'd be willing to bet on it. Sadly
just like about
anybody else on this thread I don't have an access to Snow Leopard Mac
OS X
at the moment. So if there needs to be an experiment run -- that'll
have to
wait till next week.

> intuitive?  easy to read? pretty?

What part are you complaining about? The imaginary failure?

> also, if this from david's example is allowed (i'll assume
> that the original examples' print(X+y) for int X and y
> was a bit of a typo --- i hope!)
>
> 	block =^ (int x){ print("%d\n", x ); };
>
> that sucker is on the stack.  by-by no-execute stack.
> how does it get to the stack?  is it just copied from
> the text segment or is it compiled at run time?


The structure is on the stack, the code itself is in .text as
anything else in your C program. Trust me, I've seen how
it is generated.

Thanks,
Roman.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-04 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-02  8:04 Anant Narayanan
2009-09-02  9:43 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-09-02 11:00   ` Philippe Anel
2009-09-02 11:13   ` Charles Forsyth
2009-09-03  9:52   ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-02 11:40 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-02 12:32 ` Uriel
2009-09-02 14:20   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-09-03  9:52     ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 10:48       ` Akshat Kumar
2009-09-03 11:25         ` Charles Forsyth
2009-09-03 13:59         ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 15:15     ` Uriel
2009-09-03 15:44       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 16:01         ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  9:15           ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-04 16:49             ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-03 16:02         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 18:56           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 18:58             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 19:13               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 19:36                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 19:50                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 20:30                     ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-06 22:35                     ` Uriel
2009-09-07  0:41                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 21:08                   ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-03 21:35                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 21:45                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 21:49                         ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 21:51                           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 22:36                       ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  9:16               ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 22:10           ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-03 22:07         ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-04  9:15         ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-04  3:21       ` Anant Narayanan
2009-09-04  3:52         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04  4:18           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04  4:44             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04  5:31               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04  5:35                 ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04  7:11                   ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04  7:47                     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04 14:41                       ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04 15:04                         ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04 15:58                           ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04 12:14                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 13:52                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04 13:59                         ` matt
2009-09-04 14:20                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 14:56                           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-06 23:03                             ` Uriel
2009-09-07  0:45                               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04 16:50                       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  6:45               ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04 16:44           ` Roman Shaposhnik [this message]
2009-09-04 16:58             ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-04 17:09               ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-04 17:42             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 18:34               ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 21:54               ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-07  9:06             ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-07  9:05         ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-07  9:40           ` Uriel
2009-09-08 15:31             ` David Leimbach
2009-09-08 15:44               ` Uriel
2009-09-08 16:40               ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-11 18:15                 ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-11 18:46                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-11 20:36                   ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-11 21:28                     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-14 16:07                       ` Lawrence E. Bakst
2009-09-12 11:08                     ` Anant Narayanan
2009-09-13 19:03                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-17  1:54                         ` Lawrence E. Bakst
2009-09-17  8:43                           ` Charles Forsyth
2009-09-17  9:12                             ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-17 15:56                             ` David Leimbach
2009-09-17 17:38                               ` Jack Norton
2009-09-17 20:23                                 ` Anant Narayanan
2009-09-17 20:26                                   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-17 20:31                                     ` Anant Narayanan
2009-09-17 20:47                                       ` Akshat Kumar
2009-09-17 21:02                                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-17 22:26                                           ` Steve Simon
2009-09-17 22:32                                           ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-18  2:05                                             ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-18  9:30                                             ` Charles Forsyth
2009-09-18 11:41                                               ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-17 21:03                                       ` Uriel
2009-09-03  9:52   ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-02 14:08 ` Rodolfo (kix)
2009-09-03  9:52   ` Greg Comeau
     [not found] ` <C56117D7BD9A097270529AAE@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-02 15:07   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 15:26     ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-02 15:45       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 15:32     ` Uriel
2009-09-03 15:49       ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-03 15:54         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 16:20           ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-03 16:44             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04  1:05               ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  1:30               ` Russ Cox
2009-09-04  1:32                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 21:54             ` James Tomaschke
2009-09-06 22:26           ` Uriel
2009-09-04  9:04       ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-02 15:20 ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-02 17:51   ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04  1:35 drivers
2009-09-04  1:52 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-17  9:19 Andrew Simmons
2009-09-17 14:45 ` LiteStar numnums
2009-09-17 17:24 ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-18 15:50 drivers
2009-09-18 15:56 ` erik quanstrom

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