9fans - fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Charles Forsyth <forsyth@terzarima.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] "Blocks" in C
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:30:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e9eb32f917d57e71ae6886fa35dfbc31@terzarima.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1253226737.10315.3703.camel@work>

> i mentioned that the pool library can act as a big
> kernel lock a few weeks ago.  i don't know if anyone
> has thoughts on how to deal with this.

it isn't really a `big kernel lock' in the linux sense.
the big kernel lock was the device by which operating systems
written with only a uniprocessor in mind were made to `work' on a multiprocessor.
typically, the equivalent of qlock and qunlock of a
single global lock were placed at strategic points to
bracket (say) every system call that affected non-trivial state.
then the developers started splitting the lock region.
it's easier than thinking. processes would queue for use of
the kernel (but they'd go to sleep, not spin).

for the pool library it's a spin lock, which is intended to
protect small blocks of code. really the effects of collision
should not be as bad as they are.
although it's probably good especially with many cores to have some processor-local allocation
of cpu and memory resources without interlock, or make the main storage pool locks more refined,
or using wait-free cleverness,
and indeed there are schemes to do all those things, the big initial problem with
the pool library is that it's remarkably slow. in fact,
that's been my experience with every tree-based allocator
i've had to use, so it's not just that pool is replete
with error checking. an alternative allocator that uses quickfit on top of
a variant of the simple allocator in kernighan and ritchie is
roughly 30 times faster on some malloc-thrashing tests (i'm just remembering that
from tests i did last year, so i might have the number wrong, but it's substantial).
for a reasonable choice of block quantum it also has better fragmentation properties,
which is amusing since that's supposed to be one of the advantages of the tree-based allocators.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-09-18  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-02  8:04 Anant Narayanan
2009-09-02  9:43 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-09-02 11:00   ` Philippe Anel
2009-09-02 11:13   ` Charles Forsyth
2009-09-03  9:52   ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-02 11:40 ` Eris Discordia
2009-09-02 12:32 ` Uriel
2009-09-02 14:20   ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-09-03  9:52     ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 10:48       ` Akshat Kumar
2009-09-03 11:25         ` Charles Forsyth
2009-09-03 13:59         ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 15:15     ` Uriel
2009-09-03 15:44       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 16:01         ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  9:15           ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-04 16:49             ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-03 16:02         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 18:56           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 18:58             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 19:13               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 19:36                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 19:50                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 20:30                     ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-06 22:35                     ` Uriel
2009-09-07  0:41                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 21:08                   ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-03 21:35                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 21:45                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 21:49                         ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 21:51                           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 22:36                       ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  9:16               ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-03 22:10           ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-03 22:07         ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-04  9:15         ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-04  3:21       ` Anant Narayanan
2009-09-04  3:52         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04  4:18           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04  4:44             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04  5:31               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04  5:35                 ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04  7:11                   ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04  7:47                     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04 14:41                       ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04 15:04                         ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04 15:58                           ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04 12:14                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 13:52                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04 13:59                         ` matt
2009-09-04 14:20                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 14:56                           ` David Leimbach
2009-09-06 23:03                             ` Uriel
2009-09-07  0:45                               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-04 16:50                       ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  6:45               ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04 16:44           ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-04 16:58             ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-04 17:09               ` Roman Shaposhnik
2009-09-04 17:42             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 18:34               ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04 21:54               ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-07  9:06             ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-07  9:05         ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-07  9:40           ` Uriel
2009-09-08 15:31             ` David Leimbach
2009-09-08 15:44               ` Uriel
2009-09-08 16:40               ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-11 18:15                 ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-11 18:46                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-11 20:36                   ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-11 21:28                     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-14 16:07                       ` Lawrence E. Bakst
2009-09-12 11:08                     ` Anant Narayanan
2009-09-13 19:03                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-17  1:54                         ` Lawrence E. Bakst
2009-09-17  8:43                           ` Charles Forsyth
2009-09-17  9:12                             ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-17 15:56                             ` David Leimbach
2009-09-17 17:38                               ` Jack Norton
2009-09-17 20:23                                 ` Anant Narayanan
2009-09-17 20:26                                   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-17 20:31                                     ` Anant Narayanan
2009-09-17 20:47                                       ` Akshat Kumar
2009-09-17 21:02                                         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-17 22:26                                           ` Steve Simon
2009-09-17 22:32                                           ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-18  2:05                                             ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-18  9:30                                             ` Charles Forsyth [this message]
2009-09-18 11:41                                               ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-17 21:03                                       ` Uriel
2009-09-03  9:52   ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-02 14:08 ` Rodolfo (kix)
2009-09-03  9:52   ` Greg Comeau
     [not found] ` <C56117D7BD9A097270529AAE@192.168.1.2>
2009-09-02 15:07   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-02 15:26     ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-02 15:45       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03 15:32     ` Uriel
2009-09-03 15:49       ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-03 15:54         ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 16:20           ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-03 16:44             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-04  1:05               ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-04  1:30               ` Russ Cox
2009-09-04  1:32                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 21:54             ` James Tomaschke
2009-09-06 22:26           ` Uriel
2009-09-04  9:04       ` Greg Comeau
2009-09-02 15:20 ` Roman V Shaposhnik
2009-09-02 17:51   ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-04  1:35 drivers
2009-09-04  1:52 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-17  9:19 Andrew Simmons
2009-09-17 14:45 ` LiteStar numnums
2009-09-17 17:24 ` Daniel Lyons
2009-09-18 15:50 drivers
2009-09-18 15:56 ` erik quanstrom

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=e9eb32f917d57e71ae6886fa35dfbc31@terzarima.net \
    --to=forsyth@terzarima.net \
    --cc=9fans@9fans.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).