[9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Eric Van Hensbergen]

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I took a horrible, horrible picture.  Hopefully Geoff has some that look better.

>From left to right:

Russ, Rob, Presto, Newsham, m4dh4tt3r, shailib, ???, ???, Andrey's
envoy, Geoff, and Ron Minnich (who you can see cause he's trying to
boot Xen on his laptop).  Not sure who the guy in the back was (or two
of the people in the front) - feel free to add in your name if I
missed you.

Sorry about the poor quality - I need to get a better flash for Christmas.

              -eric

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Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[C H Forsyth]

>>I took a horrible, horrible picture.

from the result i should say you are clearly vying for the contract to produce
Mr Blunkett's biometric identity cards.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Ronald G. Minnich]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, C H Forsyth wrote:

> >>I took a horrible, horrible picture.
> 
> from the result i should say you are clearly vying for the contract to produce
> Mr Blunkett's biometric identity cards.


yeah but he caught me from the best possible angle :-)

ron

RE: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Nigel Roles]

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9fans-bounces+ngr=9fs.org@cse.psu.edu wrote:
> I took a horrible, horrible picture.  Hopefully Geoff has some
> that look better.
> 
>> From left to right:
> 
> Russ, Rob, Presto, Newsham, m4dh4tt3r, shailib, ???, ???, Andrey's
> envoy, Geoff, and Ron Minnich (who you can see cause he's trying to
> boot Xen on his laptop).  Not sure who the guy in the back was (or two
> of the people in the front) - feel free to add in your name if I
> missed you.
> 
> Sorry about the poor quality - I need to get a better flash for
> Christmas. 
> 
>               -eric

Better?

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Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Eric Van Hensbergen]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:01:08 -0000, Nigel Roles <nigel@9fs.org> wrote:
> 9fans-bounces+ngr=9fs.org@cse.psu.edu wrote:
> > I took a horrible, horrible picture.  Hopefully Geoff has some
> > that look better.
> >

I actually have a higher-res version (10x the size) that I can play
with to try and enhance a bit better.   I'll give it a shot in my
copious spare time and maybe we'll pot it up on 9con.org.

      -eric

[9fans] Ping to Plan9'ers in region of Ottawa, Canada

[Bob Hartley]

G'Day!

Just like to ping any Plan 9 users in the Ottawa Canada area, and those 
interested in getting open source/alternative software into the 
Government of Canada.

Other subversives working with Linux, BSD, etc.

Meet regularly for beer and talk on Fridays.

Useful link: http://www.goslingcommunity.org/

Look forward to seeing you there.

For more information, you can email me off-list,

Robert

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[geoff]

I don't have a group picture, but I have jpegs of Eric, Ron, Tim
Newsham and plan 9 running on Xen 2 on Ron's laptop.  I've also used
rsc's mug program to generate face images, ericvh.[12] and newsham.1.
All of these can be found at www.collyer.net/where/2004dec6.9bof.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Kenji Okamoto]

Thanks geoff.

It's nice to know the faces whom we are discussing through network.
>From now, I can image what kind of person is saying something...☺

>plan 9 running on Xen 2 on Ron's laptop.  

Please Ron, explain what is the view of acme of the screen for us
who did not attend the bof, particularly why we can see graphic
images of Plan 9 on Xen.

Kenji

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Ronald G. Minnich]

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Kenji Okamoto wrote:

> Please Ron, explain what is the view of acme of the screen for us
> who did not attend the bof, particularly why we can see graphic
> images of Plan 9 on Xen.

Plan 9 runs under Xen as a guest os, or domain. Linux is domain 0, and 
hence is "special" in that it can initiate and control other domains. 
Linux talks to Xen to start the other domains. So to start Plan, you log 
into linux and:
1. losetup /dev/loop0 your-plan9-root-image-file
2. xm create -f /etc/xen/plan9 -c 
   starts up a plan 9 domain, domain 1 or higher. 
   The -c switch gives you a telnet console to the plan 9 
   console. It uses the 9pccpu kernel in the current directory. 
   

3. drawterm to the plan 9 domain. 

So, sorry, that graphics was drawterm, nothing more. You can see the 
window manager bar from X11 on the far left side of the screen ... I was 
running that drawterm on desktop 2 of the window manager (the wm in this 
case was flwm). It's fun to flip back and forth between plan 9 and the X11 
world with <Ctrl>F1 and <Ctrl>F2. 

graphics may happen, but again for graphics you need to write a driver for 
the display ... not simple, which is why I did this in the first place.

ron

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Kenji Okamoto]

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Thanks Ron.

Now, I got it right.

By the way, I fetched xen-2.0.1-src.tgz and also unstable version, 
but those doesn't include your Plan 9 port.   Haven't you released your
codes yet?

Kenji

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From: "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 22:39:39 -0700 (MST)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412132235130.8852@linux.site>



On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Kenji Okamoto wrote:

> Please Ron, explain what is the view of acme of the screen for us
> who did not attend the bof, particularly why we can see graphic
> images of Plan 9 on Xen.

Plan 9 runs under Xen as a guest os, or domain. Linux is domain 0, and 
hence is "special" in that it can initiate and control other domains. 
Linux talks to Xen to start the other domains. So to start Plan, you log 
into linux and:
1. losetup /dev/loop0 your-plan9-root-image-file
2. xm create -f /etc/xen/plan9 -c 
   starts up a plan 9 domain, domain 1 or higher. 
   The -c switch gives you a telnet console to the plan 9 
   console. It uses the 9pccpu kernel in the current directory. 
   

3. drawterm to the plan 9 domain. 

So, sorry, that graphics was drawterm, nothing more. You can see the 
window manager bar from X11 on the far left side of the screen ... I was 
running that drawterm on desktop 2 of the window manager (the wm in this 
case was flwm). It's fun to flip back and forth between plan 9 and the X11 
world with <Ctrl>F1 and <Ctrl>F2. 

graphics may happen, but again for graphics you need to write a driver for 
the display ... not simple, which is why I did this in the first place.

ron

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Ronald G. Minnich]

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Kenji Okamoto wrote:

> By the way, I fetched xen-2.0.1-src.tgz and also unstable version, but
> those doesn't include your Plan 9 port.  Haven't you released your codes
> yet?

Sorry, still working it. The paperwork is in, we're trying for a world 
record release time of < 1 month this time. 

Which seems long to me, except I know for other people I deal with that's 
really fast.

ron

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Kenji Okamoto]

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No, no, Ron, Don't worry about it.
I just had interest what is Xen 9port, though I have no time
to try for it now.   We all have limited time for ourselves!

Kenji

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From: "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:17:50 -0700 (MST)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0412141917060.2507@linux.site>



On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Kenji Okamoto wrote:

> By the way, I fetched xen-2.0.1-src.tgz and also unstable version, but
> those doesn't include your Plan 9 port.  Haven't you released your codes
> yet?

Sorry, still working it. The paperwork is in, we're trying for a world 
record release time of < 1 month this time. 

Which seems long to me, except I know for other people I deal with that's 
really fast.

ron

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[David Leimbach]

Yeah I'm still interested in the project as a whole but at this time I
can't easily put a lot of time into it due to real life and other
commitments :(.

I'm going to be keeping an interested eye on it though :).

Dave


On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:07:43 +0900, Kenji Okamoto
<okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> wrote:
> No, no, Ron, Don't worry about it.
> I just had interest what is Xen 9port, though I have no time
> to try for it now.   We all have limited time for ourselves!
> 
> Kenji
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov>
> To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:17:50 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture
> 
> 
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Kenji Okamoto wrote:
> 
> > By the way, I fetched xen-2.0.1-src.tgz and also unstable version, but
> > those doesn't include your Plan 9 port.  Haven't you released your codes
> > yet?
> 
> Sorry, still working it. The paperwork is in, we're trying for a world
> record release time of < 1 month this time.
> 
> Which seems long to me, except I know for other people I deal with that's
> really fast.
> 
> ron
> 
>

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Dan Cross]

Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com> writes:
> I took a horrible, horrible picture.  Hopefully Geoff has some that look better.
> 
> From left to right:
> 
> Russ, Rob, Presto, Newsham, m4dh4tt3r, shailib, ???, ???, Andrey's
> envoy, Geoff, and Ron Minnich (who you can see cause he's trying to
> boot Xen on his laptop).  Not sure who the guy in the back was (or two
> of the people in the front) - feel free to add in your name if I
> missed you.
> 
> Sorry about the poor quality - I need to get a better flash for Christmas.

Hmm.  I should have come.  I could have stood in the back and done my
drill instructor immitation while you guys laughed at my haircut.

	- Dan C.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 BoF Picture

[Skip Tavakkolian]

>> Not sure who the guy in the back was (or two
>> of the people in the front) - feel free to add in your name if I
>> missed you.
>> 
>> Sorry about the poor quality - I need to get a better flash for Christmas.
> 
> Hmm.  I should have come.  I could have stood in the back and done my
> drill instructor immitation while you guys laughed at my haircut.

probably as cuddlesome as a bunch of Marines too, by the looks of it ☺