[9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[lamg]

 Sorry guys, I didn´t know that students in Cuba cannot participate,
anyway I will upload the markdown engine when completed to github.com
    lamg

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[steve]

thats a real shame.

its a pity when politics gets in the way of education - I assume this
is the problem, i apologise if not.

-Steve

On 22 Apr 2013, at 21:37, lamg <gort.andres000@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry guys, I didn´t know that students in Cuba cannot participate,
> anyway I will upload the markdown engine when completed to github.com
>    lamg

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[Calvin Morrison]

Politics... no.

It is most likely to do with taxes and other paperwork. it would be a
huge hassle for Google to employ students all over the world, more
hassle than it is worth apparently.


On 23 April 2013 03:02, steve <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
> thats a real shame.
>
> its a pity when politics gets in the way of education - I assume this
> is the problem, i apologise if not.
>
> -Steve
>
> On 22 Apr 2013, at 21:37, lamg <gort.andres000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry guys, I didn´t know that students in Cuba cannot participate,
>> anyway I will upload the markdown engine when completed to github.com
>>    lamg
>

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[Iruatã Souza]

how naive.

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@gmail.com> wrote:
> Politics... no.
>
> It is most likely to do with taxes and other paperwork. it would be a
> huge hassle for Google to employ students all over the world, more
> hassle than it is worth apparently.
>
>
> On 23 April 2013 03:02, steve <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
>> thats a real shame.
>>
>> its a pity when politics gets in the way of education - I assume this
>> is the problem, i apologise if not.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> On 22 Apr 2013, at 21:37, lamg <gort.andres000@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry guys, I didn´t know that students in Cuba cannot participate,
>>> anyway I will upload the markdown engine when completed to github.com
>>>    lamg
>>
>

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[andrey mirtchovski]

> Politics...

"residents and/or nationals of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Sudan, North Korea
and Myanmar (Burma), with whom we are prohibited by U.S. law from
engaging in commerce, are ineligible to participate"

http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as

sad but true.

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[Matthew Veety]

On Apr 23, 2013, at 16:33, andrey mirtchovski <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Politics...
> 
> "residents and/or nationals of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Sudan, North Korea
> and Myanmar (Burma), with whom we are prohibited by U.S. law from
> engaging in commerce, are ineligible to participate"
> 
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as
> 
> sad but true.
> 

That's fucking stupid. Can he still work on a project with out getting paid for it?

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[Calvin Morrison]

On 23 April 2013 16:26, Iruatã Souza <iru.muzgo@gmail.com> wrote:
> how naive.

Yes politics under the surface, but for Google, they don't want to
deal with any of that, so they just restrict it.

> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Politics... no.
>>
>> It is most likely to do with taxes and other paperwork. it would be a
>> huge hassle for Google to employ students all over the world, more
>> hassle than it is worth apparently.
>>
>>
>> On 23 April 2013 03:02, steve <steve@quintile.net> wrote:
>>> thats a real shame.
>>>
>>> its a pity when politics gets in the way of education - I assume this
>>> is the problem, i apologise if not.
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>> On 22 Apr 2013, at 21:37, lamg <gort.andres000@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry guys, I didn´t know that students in Cuba cannot participate,
>>>> anyway I will upload the markdown engine when completed to github.com
>>>>    lamg
>>>
>>
>

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[Kurt H Maier]

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:36:23PM -0400, Matthew Veety wrote:
>
> That's fucking stupid. Can he still work on a project with out getting paid for it?

I'm pretty certain gsoc mentors don't have to sign noncompetes.


khm

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[Devon H. O'Dell]

2013/4/23 Kurt H Maier <khm-9@intma.in>:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:36:23PM -0400, Matthew Veety wrote:
>>
>> That's fucking stupid. Can he still work on a project with out getting paid for it?

Yes, but not through the context of GSoC. It is unfortunate.

--dho

> I'm pretty certain gsoc mentors don't have to sign noncompetes.
>
>
> khm
>

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[a]

To clarify:
Yes, participation in GSoC is governed by US financial
regulations which restrict individuals (students or mentors)
from certain countries, including Cuba and Iran (and a few
others I can't think of off the top of my head, but it's a
very short list).

While I believe this comes from US financial restrictions,
refusing the payment doesn't change anything from
Google's perspective. Individuals from those countries
may not participate under the GSoC umbrella.

We are, of course, under no such restrictions as a project
just because we participate in GSoC. I'd love to see the
output of this project, or that from any other individuals in
any of the countries Google can't work with.
Anthony

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[Bruce Ellis]

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I had to get an import license for my Blit. It's very nice. I'm still not
sure if I can dispose of it. It only lasted 15 years in Bondi heat/salt.
Gsoc project: fix it - connect it to the bunny. Extra credit: find out if I
can give it to you.

brucee


On 24 April 2013 20:20, Antonio Barrones <antonio.fin@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> Politics...
> >>
> >"residents and/or nationals of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Sudan, North Korea
> >and Myanmar (Burma), with whom we are prohibited by U.S. law from
> >engaging in commerce, are ineligible to participate"
> >
> >
> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013
> >>/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as
> >
> >sad but true.
>
> In the ftp mirrors of NetBSD, they had a similar restriction for
> cryptographic software: http://www.netbsd.org/about/crypto-export.html
> 250-EXPORT NOTICE
>
>  Please note that portions of this FTP site contain cryptographic
>  software controlled under the Export Administration Regulations (EAR).
>
>  None of this software may be downloaded or otherwise exported or
>  re-exported into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Iran, Libya,
>  Sudan, North Korea, Syria or any other country to which the U.S. has
>  embargoed goods.
>
>  By downloading or using said software, you are agreeing to the
>  foregoing and you are representing and warranting that you are not
>  located in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any
>  such country or on any such list.
> 250 CWD command successful
>
> You can not travel to Cuba with your laptop if you have NetBSD installed.
> I don't know the case of Plan9 but I guess it is similar, but I really
> don't know.
>
> Antonio
>
>

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Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[lucio]

> You can not travel to Cuba with your laptop if you have NetBSD installed.
> I don't know the case of Plan9 but I guess it is similar, but I really
> don't know.

That is, if you're travelling from the USA, or a law-abiding US citizen.

The law is an ass.

Lucio.

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

[Antonio Barrones]

>> Politics...
>>
>"residents and/or nationals of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Sudan, North Korea
>and Myanmar (Burma), with whom we are prohibited by U.S. law from
>engaging in commerce, are ineligible to participate"
>
>http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013>>/help_page#4._Who_is_not_eligible_to_participate_as
>
>sad but true.

In the ftp mirrors of NetBSD, they had a similar restriction for
cryptographic software: http://www.netbsd.org/about/crypto-export.html
250-EXPORT NOTICE

 Please note that portions of this FTP site contain cryptographic
 software controlled under the Export Administration Regulations (EAR).

 None of this software may be downloaded or otherwise exported or
 re-exported into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Iran, Libya,
 Sudan, North Korea, Syria or any other country to which the U.S. has
 embargoed goods.

 By downloading or using said software, you are agreeing to the
 foregoing and you are representing and warranting that you are not
 located in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any
 such country or on any such list.
250 CWD command successful

You can not travel to Cuba with your laptop if you have NetBSD installed.
I don't know the case of Plan9 but I guess it is similar, but I really
don't know.

Antonio