caml-list - the Caml user's mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: james woodyatt <jhw@wetware.com>
To: The Trade <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: [Caml-list] off-topic: apple and bsd (was Re: User library license)
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:22:52 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C05F0EAE-4835-11D7-A6A7-000393BA7EBA@wetware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E5A69E9.4010306@ucdavis.edu>

[sincere apologies for the off-topic message]

On Monday, Feb 24, 2003, at 10:52 US/Pacific, Issac Trotts wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
>>
>> The problem with that is that anyone can take your work, modify it, 
>> and
>> don't give anything back, look at apple for example, they took the BSD
>> kernel, and don't give anything back. I think licencing is the main
>> reason they choose a BSD kernel over a linux one back then. I suppose
>> some people (including me) would not be willing to contribute code 
>> under
>> these circunstances, so i don't think it would be best for the 
>> project,
>> since the aim is to put in common the code.
>
> It would be more accurate to say that they "copied" the BSD kernel. 
> "Taking"
> usually means that the one who had it no longer has it.  Why should it 
> matter
> if they use information so long as they don't take away other people's 
> freedom
> to use it?

It would also improve the accuracy of the statement if the phrase "and 
don't give anything back" were elided.  Apple has released the source 
code for the Darwin OS, i.e. the BSD kernel and userland applications 
ported to Apple's not-quite-a-microkernel-anymore variant of the Mach 
microkernel that serves as a foundation for Mac OS X.  There are Darwin 
OS developers who are not Apple employees.  They have their own 
agendas, and they consider their interests served by cooperating with 
Apple in the development of the core of Mac OS X.

The primary difference between the BSD License and the current Apple 
Public Source License is that the latter sports a layer of legal armor 
designed to ward off frivolous IP lawsuits against a publicly traded 
corporation with billions of dollars in liquid cash assets.

[If anyone wishes to dispute this, please message me directly.]


-- 
j h woodyatt <jhw@wetware.com>

-------------------
To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr
Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/
Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners


  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-24 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-23  6:30 [Caml-list] User library license Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer
2003-02-23 17:00 ` Sven Luther
2003-02-23 19:57   ` Brian Hurt
2003-02-24  9:18     ` Sven Luther
2003-02-24  1:45   ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-02-24  2:43     ` Brian Hurt
2003-02-24  9:26       ` Sven Luther
2003-02-24  9:37         ` Alessandro Baretta
2003-02-24 18:01           ` Blair Zajac
2003-02-24 13:43       ` John Max Skaller
2003-02-24  9:24     ` Sven Luther
2003-02-24  9:47       ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-02-24 10:00         ` Sven Luther
2003-02-24 13:51           ` John Max Skaller
2003-02-24 18:00       ` Blair Zajac
2003-02-25  6:18         ` John Max Skaller
2003-02-25  9:12           ` Markus Mottl
2003-02-25 17:25             ` John Max Skaller
2003-02-24 18:52       ` Issac Trotts
2003-02-24 20:22         ` james woodyatt [this message]
2003-02-24 21:18       ` Damien Doligez
2003-02-25 10:27         ` Sven Luther
2003-02-23 17:35 ` mgushee
2003-02-23 19:52 ` Brian Hurt
2003-02-24  9:35   ` Sven Luther

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=C05F0EAE-4835-11D7-A6A7-000393BA7EBA@wetware.com \
    --to=jhw@wetware.com \
    --cc=caml-list@inria.fr \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).