CJK on terminal

CJK on terminal

[Alexander Kotelnikov]

Hello.

Some times I get into trouble reading mail on console/via ssh with
gnus when I get CJK spam, mostly it is Korean, even I do not want to
hurt anyone.

The problem is that their hieroglyphs, when they appear in summary,
make gnus, you will laugh, to put email address of current From to
bbdb.

Is there any way to suppress this behaviour?

I can supply couple of examples of such messages. 

BTW, can I, while writing a message, attach another, from one of my
groups, to it?

Thanks,
-- 
Alexander Kotelnikov
Saint-Petersburg, Russia

Re: CJK on terminal

[Vasily Korytov]

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>>>>> "AK" == Alexander Kotelnikov writes:

 AK> Some times I get into trouble reading mail on console/via ssh with
 AK> gnus when I get CJK spam, mostly it is Korean, even I do not want to
 AK> hurt anyone.

What terminals do you use exactly? And, if I got it, this problem does
not appear in X Window, yes?

 AK> The problem is that their hieroglyphs, when they appear in summary,
 AK> make gnus, you will laugh, to put email address of current From to
 AK> bbdb.

 AK> Is there any way to suppress this behaviour?

 AK> I can supply couple of examples of such messages. 

Yes, supply, please. I remember nothing similar here.

A workarond may be to file all cjk mail to another folder (and revisit
it carefully) or delete it -- if you don't communicate to anyone using
cjk, of course. =))

---Vas

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Re: CJK on terminal

[Kai Großjohann]

Alexander Kotelnikov <sacha@myxomop.com> writes:

> Some times I get into trouble reading mail on console/via ssh with
> gnus when I get CJK spam, mostly it is Korean, even I do not want to
> hurt anyone.

Does it help to use C-x RET t to tell Emacs about the encoding that
your terminal uses?  Maybe that helps Emacs to protect itself.
-- 
A turnip curses Elvis

Re: CJK on terminal

[Alexander Kotelnikov]

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>>>>> On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 10:49:15 +0100
>>>>> "KG" == Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de> wrote:
KG> 
KG> Alexander Kotelnikov <sacha@myxomop.com> writes:
>> Some times I get into trouble reading mail on console/via ssh with
>> gnus when I get CJK spam, mostly it is Korean, even I do not want to
>> hurt anyone.
KG> 
KG> Does it help to use C-x RET t to tell Emacs about the encoding that
KG> your terminal uses?  Maybe that helps Emacs to protect itself.

It does not (I've selected cyrillic-koi8).

The problem can be easily reproduced the following way:

1. run emacs -nw -f gnus in xterm with ru_RU.KOI8-R locale with the
   folowing bbdb configuration:
;; bbdb
(require 'bbdb)
(bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)

2. Add the attached file as a foreign mailbox froup (G f)

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3. Enter this group and you will got something like you can see on the
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-- 
Alexander Kotelnikov
Saint-Petersburg, Russia

Re: CJK on terminal

[Vasily Korytov]

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>>>>> "AK" == Alexander Kotelnikov writes:

 AK> The problem can be easily reproduced the following way:

I couldn't. I've tried it on Linux console, rxvt and xterm -- but got no
effect.

---Vas

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Re: CJK on terminal

[Alexander Kotelnikov]

>>>>> On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:12:12 +0300
>>>>> "VK" == Vasily Korytov <deskpot@myrealbox.com> wrote:
VK> 
>>>>> "AK" == Alexander Kotelnikov writes:
AK> The problem can be easily reproduced the following way:
VK> 
VK> I couldn't. I've tried it on Linux console, rxvt and xterm -- but got no
VK> effect.

This can depends on many factors. To be more concrete: I have this
trouble on Debian at least for a half of year. I use gnu emacs.
There is no such problem on console. I am not able to test with rxvt.

PS Could you, please, not mailing me answers twice, directly and
through the mailing list. It is almost impossible to suppress these
duplicated mails using IMAP.

PPS If someone know, how it can be done easily, I will be happy to
know.
-- 
Alexander Kotelnikov
Saint-Petersburg, Russia

Re: CJK on terminal

[Vasily Korytov]

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>>>>> "AK" == Alexander Kotelnikov writes:

 AK> This can depends on many factors. To be more concrete: I have this
 AK> trouble on Debian at least for a half of year. I use gnu emacs.
 AK> There is no such problem on console. I am not able to test with rxvt.

I've asked you in the first message, =)) on what terminals exactly does
this problem appear? If only in xterm, there's a known xterm bug, that
makes it to interprete some symbols (i.e. from any app) as
command-sequences.

Anyway, be more concrete. Tell us about those ``many factors''.

 AK> PS Could you, please, not mailing me answers twice, directly and
 AK> through the mailing list. It is almost impossible to suppress these
 AK> duplicated mails using IMAP.

In this message I'll do it. But no further. info://message/Mailing+Lists

 AK> PPS If someone know, how it can be done easily, I will be happy to
 AK> know.

If for some reason you don't want to include MFT, ``Mail-Copies-To:
never'' should work as well, assuming all people here use Gnus.

---Vas

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