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From: Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>
Subject: Re: thoughts on spam
Date: 04 Nov 2001 01:01:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m34rob3whg.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hhk7x73e7r.fsf@nightshade.la.mastaler.com>

* "Jason R. Mastaler" <jason-dated-1005503050.85ff2f@mastaler.com>  on Sat, 03 Nov 2001
| Programs like spambouncer are exactly why I wrote TMDA.  The reason is
| explained under ``Traditional Blacklist-centric Strategy'' at
| http://tmda.sf.net/

Whitelists have their own risks that I would rather not have to deal with
at the delivery level.  For example, I post something to a mailing list,
someone wants clarification about that thing and would prefer not to
discuss it on the list.  His mail bounces because he is not in my
whitelist.  Sure, he gets a note saying, "here is how to get on Rat's
whitelist."  That is a pain in the ass, plain and simple.

Whitelists do not scale well at all, which is why SpamCop is moving away
from a whitelist/blacklist scheme to an heuristic scheme that they have
found blocks more spam with fewer false positives than the combined white
and black lists.

Just FYI.
-- 
Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>    \ Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly
Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ accelerate to dangerous speeds.
PGP Key: at a key server near you!  \ 



  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-04  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-18  5:11 Generating Mail-Followup-To: headers Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18  5:43 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 16:08   ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 16:19     ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 16:41       ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 18:17         ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 23:19           ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-10-19  9:03             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-01 21:54               ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-01 22:10                 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02  1:03                   ` Samuel Padgett
2001-11-07 13:39                     ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-07 13:30                   ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-07 14:26                     ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-11-07 14:31                       ` Didier Verna
2001-11-07 14:40                         ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-11-07 14:44                     ` Josh Huber
2001-11-07 15:36                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-07 16:08                         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-07 17:03                           ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-07 19:59                           ` Josh Huber
2001-11-02  8:31                 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-02 16:09                   ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 16:52                     ` OT: make bbdb shut up about different email addresses? Josh Huber
2001-11-02 17:37                       ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 17:48                         ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-02 19:44                           ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 19:58                             ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-02 18:35                         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 22:27                       ` Jack Twilley
2001-11-02 23:54                         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-03  5:16                           ` thoughts on spam Bill White
2001-11-03  6:33                             ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03  7:29                               ` SPAM? What SPAM? (was: thoughts on spam) Robin S. Socha
2001-11-03 18:13                                 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-03 18:39                                   ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 19:04                                     ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-03 19:12                                       ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 19:21                                       ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-03 22:52                                         ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-03 14:48                               ` thoughts on spam Bill White
2001-11-03 15:12                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-03 18:24                                   ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04  6:01                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat [this message]
2001-11-04  7:00                                       ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04  8:40                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 20:04                                           ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-05 20:38                                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 23:06                                               ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-06  1:52                                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06  2:07                                                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06  2:43                                                     ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-06  3:05                                                       ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06  3:26                                                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 22:01                                         ` Chris Shenton
2001-11-05 22:54                                           ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-03 18:26                                   ` Robin S. Socha
2001-11-03 18:42                                     ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 18:56                                     ` Fabien Penso
2001-11-03 19:24                                       ` Robin S. Socha
2001-11-04  5:54                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-04  7:07                                           ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04  9:04                                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-04 17:57                                               ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-04 20:46                                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05  3:49                                                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-05  4:34                                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05  5:27                                                       ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-05 15:59                                                   ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-05 16:57                                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 17:45                                                       ` [OT] " Fabien Penso
2001-11-05 19:25                                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 19:33                                                       ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-05 19:58                                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 20:01                                                         ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-05 20:35                                                         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06  6:51                                                           ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 16:55                                                             ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06 18:51                                                               ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 19:19                                                                 ` Lost Mail (was thoughts on spam) Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06 20:02                                                                 ` thoughts on spam Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06 20:49                                                                   ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 19:52                                                         ` Steinar Bang
2001-11-04 17:33                                             ` François Pinard
2001-11-04 17:23                                           ` François Pinard
2001-11-03 20:32                                       ` Russ Allbery
2001-11-03 18:15                                 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04  4:08                                   ` Bill White
2001-11-04  4:04                                     ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04  4:07                             ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04  7:11                               ` Bill White
2001-11-04  7:10                                 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04 13:47                                 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04 17:45                                   ` bbdb arcana Bill White
2001-11-07 13:43                   ` Generating Mail-Followup-To: headers Maciej Matysiak
2001-10-19  4:48           ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 13:46             ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 14:08               ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 15:49                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 15:29               ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 16:19                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 19:29                   ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 19:44                     ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:59                     ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 15:42               ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 16:16                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 16:25                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 17:01                     ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 17:04                       ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 19:46                         ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 19:54                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 20:05                             ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:50                               ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 21:12                                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20  6:52                                   ` Josh Huber
2001-10-20  9:41                                   ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-21  0:58                                     ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 20:16                       ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 21:12                         ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 21:40                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20  6:25                             ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 17:51                   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 18:23                     ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:31                       ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 20:53                         ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 22:28                         ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 23:58                           ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-20 10:56                             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20 11:19                             ` ShengHuo ZHU
2001-10-20  4:47                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20 10:57                             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20  6:29                           ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 19:26                     ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 21:08                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 21:20                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20  9:51                     ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-20 10:59                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 16:31               ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 16:59     ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 16:36   ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 17:11     ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 17:56       ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 18:52         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 19:11           ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 19:29             ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 19:27         ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19  9:05         ` Kai Großjohann

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