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From: pinard@iro.umontreal.ca (François Pinard)
Cc: "(ding)" <ding@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: thoughts on spam
Date: 04 Nov 2001 12:23:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <oq1yjeih6h.fsf@carouge.sram.qc.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m38zdn3wst.fsf@peorth.gweep.net>

[Stainless Steel Rat]

> Yeah, but you know, not using qmail has one really, really important benfit
> to me: I don't use qmail.  Whether or not qmail sucks is not the issue.
> Dan Bernstein is the issue.  I simply refuse to voluntarilly use any of
> his software, and there is absolutely nothing that anyone can say that
> will get me to change my mind, simple as that.

I heartedly agree.  Daniel has beaten all known records for the rate at
which one may create own enemies.  He kept silent and quiet for many years,
maybe so people may forget him, but I've no proof the guy is different.
Note that I never had problems personally with him, but seeing how he
behaved with many, many others, I just do not want that guy in my life.

Besides, whatever the license is, however competent is the writer, haughtily
maintained software is never as free as it appears to be.  When someone is
spitting on you and you may not easily run away, you just can't feel free.
The best way to not become dependent on Qmail is to never start using it.

-- 
François Pinard   http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard




  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-11-04 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-18  5:11 Generating Mail-Followup-To: headers Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18  5:43 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 16:08   ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 16:19     ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 16:41       ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 18:17         ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 23:19           ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-10-19  9:03             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-01 21:54               ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-01 22:10                 ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02  1:03                   ` Samuel Padgett
2001-11-07 13:39                     ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-07 13:30                   ` Maciej Matysiak
2001-11-07 14:26                     ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-11-07 14:31                       ` Didier Verna
2001-11-07 14:40                         ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-11-07 14:44                     ` Josh Huber
2001-11-07 15:36                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-07 16:08                         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-07 17:03                           ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-07 19:59                           ` Josh Huber
2001-11-02  8:31                 ` Kai Großjohann
2001-11-02 16:09                   ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 16:52                     ` OT: make bbdb shut up about different email addresses? Josh Huber
2001-11-02 17:37                       ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 17:48                         ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-02 19:44                           ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 19:58                             ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-02 18:35                         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-02 22:27                       ` Jack Twilley
2001-11-02 23:54                         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-03  5:16                           ` thoughts on spam Bill White
2001-11-03  6:33                             ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03  7:29                               ` SPAM? What SPAM? (was: thoughts on spam) Robin S. Socha
2001-11-03 18:13                                 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-03 18:39                                   ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 19:04                                     ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-03 19:12                                       ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 19:21                                       ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-03 22:52                                         ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-03 14:48                               ` thoughts on spam Bill White
2001-11-03 15:12                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-03 18:24                                   ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04  6:01                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-04  7:00                                       ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04  8:40                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 20:04                                           ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-05 20:38                                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 23:06                                               ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-06  1:52                                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06  2:07                                                   ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06  2:43                                                     ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-06  3:05                                                       ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06  3:26                                                       ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 22:01                                         ` Chris Shenton
2001-11-05 22:54                                           ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-03 18:26                                   ` Robin S. Socha
2001-11-03 18:42                                     ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-03 18:56                                     ` Fabien Penso
2001-11-03 19:24                                       ` Robin S. Socha
2001-11-04  5:54                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-04  7:07                                           ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04  9:04                                             ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-04 17:57                                               ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-04 20:46                                                 ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05  3:49                                                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-11-05  4:34                                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05  5:27                                                       ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-05 15:59                                                   ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-05 16:57                                                     ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 17:45                                                       ` [OT] " Fabien Penso
2001-11-05 19:25                                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 19:33                                                       ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-05 19:58                                                         ` Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-05 20:01                                                         ` Karl Kleinpaste
2001-11-05 20:35                                                         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06  6:51                                                           ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 16:55                                                             ` Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06 18:51                                                               ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 19:19                                                                 ` Lost Mail (was thoughts on spam) Stainless Steel Rat
2001-11-06 20:02                                                                 ` thoughts on spam Matt Armstrong
2001-11-06 20:49                                                                   ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-06 19:52                                                         ` Steinar Bang
2001-11-04 17:33                                             ` François Pinard
2001-11-04 17:23                                           ` François Pinard [this message]
2001-11-03 20:32                                       ` Russ Allbery
2001-11-03 18:15                                 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04  4:08                                   ` Bill White
2001-11-04  4:04                                     ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04  4:07                             ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04  7:11                               ` Bill White
2001-11-04  7:10                                 ` Jason R. Mastaler
2001-11-04 13:47                                 ` Harry Putnam
2001-11-04 17:45                                   ` bbdb arcana Bill White
2001-11-07 13:43                   ` Generating Mail-Followup-To: headers Maciej Matysiak
2001-10-19  4:48           ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 13:46             ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 14:08               ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 15:49                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 15:29               ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 16:19                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 19:29                   ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 19:44                     ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:59                     ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 15:42               ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 16:16                 ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-19 16:25                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 17:01                     ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 17:04                       ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 19:46                         ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 19:54                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 20:05                             ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:50                               ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 21:12                                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20  6:52                                   ` Josh Huber
2001-10-20  9:41                                   ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-21  0:58                                     ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 20:16                       ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19 21:12                         ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 21:40                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20  6:25                             ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 17:51                   ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 18:23                     ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 20:31                       ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 20:53                         ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 22:28                         ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 23:58                           ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-20 10:56                             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20 11:19                             ` ShengHuo ZHU
2001-10-20  4:47                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-20 10:57                             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20  6:29                           ` Josh Huber
2001-10-19 19:26                     ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-19 21:08                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 21:20                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-20  9:51                     ` Per Abrahamsen
2001-10-20 10:59                       ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-19 16:31               ` Kai Großjohann
2001-10-18 16:59     ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 16:36   ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 17:11     ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-18 17:56       ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 18:52         ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 19:11           ` Josh Huber
2001-10-18 19:29             ` Matt Armstrong
2001-10-18 19:27         ` Paul Jarc
2001-10-19  9:05         ` Kai Großjohann

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