MIME composition, dumb question

MIME composition, dumb question

[Jack Vinson]

Now that message-mode in pgnus is well on its way to a fairly useful
MIME-message creation tool, is there a simple way to create my own sections
when I want to do things like sending a bug report in a separate MIME
section from my regular text?  This would be something like
message-insert-mime-divider or something that would ask what the
Content-Type should be.  (Or have I completely missed this buried in the
MML and MIME threads?)

Is it appropriate to send a message that only contains several text/plain
sections?

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Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Jack Vinson <jvinson@chevax.ecs.umass.edu> writes:

> Now that message-mode in pgnus is well on its way to a fairly useful
> MIME-message creation tool, is there a simple way to create my own sections
> when I want to do things like sending a bug report in a separate MIME
> section from my regular text?  This would be something like
> message-insert-mime-divider or something that would ask what the
> Content-Type should be.  (Or have I completely missed this buried in the
> MML and MIME threads?)

We haven't gotten around to defining MIME composition commands yet.

What prefix should they have, and what commands do we need?

> Is it appropriate to send a message that only contains several text/plain
> sections?

Well...  Why not?

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Yair Friedman]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> We haven't gotten around to defining MIME composition commands yet.
> 
> What prefix should they have, and what commands do we need?
> 

Please *don't* use TM's C-c C-x, it's too dangerous. C-c C-m has good
mnemonic, and is currently unbound, C-c TAB is somewhat convenient
prefix.

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Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Yair Friedman <yfriedma@JohnBryce.Co.Il> writes:

> Please *don't* use TM's C-c C-x, it's too dangerous. C-c C-m has good
> mnemonic, and is currently unbound, C-c TAB is somewhat convenient
> prefix.

`C-c C-m' isn't unreasonable as a prefix, but perhaps something
shorter might be nice...

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Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Kai.Grossjohann]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

  > `C-c C-m' isn't unreasonable as a prefix, but perhaps something
  > shorter might be nice...

Can we steal M-o?  That's not bound by default, but it's also not
something that major modes usually use.

kai
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Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:

> Can we steal M-o?  That's not bound by default, but it's also not
> something that major modes usually use.

`M-o' seems like a handy prefix.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Dale Hagglund]

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes:
> 
> > Can we steal M-o?  That's not bound by default, but it's also not
> > something that major modes usually use.
> 
> `M-o' seems like a handy prefix.

I actually think that `C-c C-m' is easier to type the `M-o'.  From a
touch-typist point of view, it's not the *length* of the key sequence,
so much as how easy the finger movements involved are.

`C-c C-m' is relatively simple: hold down `control', then hit `c' and
`m', which is fast because they on altermate hands.  At least for me,
the `alt' key is a more awkward key to reach than `control'.

Also, it has the advantage of having an `m' in it somewhere.  Of
course, we wouldn't want to start a trend . . . .

Dale.

Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dale Hagglund <rdh@best.com> writes:

> `C-c C-m' is relatively simple: hold down `control', then hit `c' and
> `m', which is fast because they on altermate hands.  At least for me,
> the `alt' key is a more awkward key to reach than `control'.

That's true.

> Also, it has the advantage of having an `m' in it somewhere.  Of
> course, we wouldn't want to start a trend . . . .

We wouldn't?  I'm all for trends.  Trend, trend, trend.

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Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Edward J. Sabol]

Excerpts from mail: (20-Nov-98) Re: MIME composition, dumb question by Dale Hagglund
> I actually think that `C-c C-m' is easier to type the `M-o'.  From a
> touch-typist point of view, it's not the *length* of the key sequence,
> so much as how easy the finger movements involved are.

I like `C-c C-m' better than `M-o' as well. There's nothing particularly
mnemonic about `M-o'.

Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Lee Willis]

"Edward J. Sabol" <sabol@alderaan.gsfc.nasa.gov> writes:

> Excerpts from mail: (20-Nov-98) Re: MIME composition, dumb question by Dale Hagglund
> > I actually think that `C-c C-m' is easier to type the `M-o'.  From a
> > touch-typist point of view, it's not the *length* of the key sequence,
> > so much as how easy the finger movements involved are.
> 
> I like `C-c C-m' better than `M-o' as well. There's nothing particularly
> mnemonic about `M-o'.

*M*IME *O*peration ?

Erm well actually my vote is for C-c C-m as well since I use different
machines all the time and Meta is never in the same darn place ;)

Lee.
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Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Wes Hardaker]

>>>>> On 23 Nov 1998 16:35:03 +0000, Lee Willis <lee@gbdirect.co.uk> said:

>> I like `C-c C-m' better than `M-o' as well. There's nothing
>> particularly mnemonic about `M-o'.

Lee> *M*IME *O*peration ?

Actually, we should make it M-oo since mime generally considered to be 
a cow...

Lee> Erm well actually my vote is for C-c C-m as well since I use
Lee> different machines all the time and Meta is never in the same
Lee> darn place ;)

Well, remember, as all these key binding flame wars go on, you can
bind it wherever you want for yourself...

For me, I'd like to propose M-n.   It's perfect for those of use on a
dvorak keyboard, which you should all be using anyway.  HA.

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Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Robert Bihlmeyer]

Hi,

>>>>> On 20 Nov 1998 21:53:45 -0800
>>>>> Dale Hagglund <rdh@best.com> said:

 Dale> I actually think that `C-c C-m' is easier to type the `M-o'.
 Dale> From a touch-typist point of view, it's not the *length* of the
 Dale> key sequence, so much as how easy the finger movements involved
 Dale> are.

>From a touch-typist pov, you'd have to:
hit right control
hit c
release them
hit left control
hit m

Even C-[ o is better than that, if your [ is somewhere handy.

	Robbe

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Re: MIME composition, dumb question

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Robert Bihlmeyer <e9426626@stud2.tuwien.ac.at> writes:

> >From a touch-typist pov, you'd have to:
> hit right control
> hit c
> release them
> hit left control
> hit m

I can hold down left control and hit c and m while touch-typing.  The
left control is on the left pinky, and then the c is on the left
middle finger.  Ok, it hurts, but I can do it.  :-)

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen