* Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released @ 1997-09-15 22:22 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1997-09-16 2:45 ` Karl Kleinpaste ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-15 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw) Bug fixes. Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz> or "/ftp@ftp.gnus.org:/pub/emacs/gnus/". The patch is available as <URL:http://www.gnus.org/patches/qgnus-0.4-0.5.diff.gz>. ChangeLog since last release: Tue Sep 16 00:18:11 1997 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@menja.ifi.uio.no> * gnus.el: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released. Mon Sep 15 00:53:50 1997 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> * gnus-sum.el (gnus-alter-header-function): New variable. (gnus-nov-parse-line): Use it. (gnus-get-newsgroup-headers): Ditto. * gnus-draft.el (gnus-group-send-drafts): Don't send when unplugged. * gnus-sum.el (gnus-summary-read-group): Don't show-all when skipping groups. * gnus-start.el (gnus-start-draft-setup): Changed name. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-15 22:22 Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-16 2:45 ` Karl Kleinpaste 1997-09-16 3:29 ` SL Baur 1997-09-16 7:39 ` Mark Hovey 1997-09-16 11:41 ` Johan Vromans ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Karl Kleinpaste @ 1997-09-16 2:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Doc bug: During "make EMACS=xemacs"... Formatting: Setting Process Marks ... Formatting: Limiting ... Formatting: Threading ... Formatting: Customizing Threading ... @] is not handled by texinfo XEmacs exiting. make: *** [gnus] Error 255 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 2:45 ` Karl Kleinpaste @ 1997-09-16 3:29 ` SL Baur 1997-09-16 7:39 ` Mark Hovey 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: SL Baur @ 1997-09-16 3:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Karl Kleinpaste <karl@jprc.com> writes: > Doc bug: During "make EMACS=xemacs"... > Formatting: Setting Process Marks ... > Formatting: Limiting ... > Formatting: Threading ... > Formatting: Customizing Threading ... > @] is not handled by texinfo > XEmacs exiting. > make: *** [gnus] Error 255 I sent this patch to gnus-bug: 1997-09-15 SL Baur <steve@altair.xemacs.org> * gnus.texi: Fix typo. =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/gnus.texi,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 gnus.texi --- gnus.texi 1997/09/15 23:55:36 1.5 +++ gnus.texi 1997/09/16 00:19:50 @@ -4737,9 +4737,9 @@ (defun my-alter-message-id (header) (let ((id (mail-header-id header))) (when (string-match - "\\(<[^<>@]*\\)\\.?cygnus\\..*@\\([^<>@]*>\\)" id) + "\\(<[^<>@@]*\\)\\.?cygnus\\..*@@\\([^<>@@]*>\\)" id) (mail-header-set-id - (concat (match-string 1 id) "@" (match-string 2 id)) + (concat (match-string 1 id) "@@" (match-string 2 id)) header)))) @end lisp ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 2:45 ` Karl Kleinpaste 1997-09-16 3:29 ` SL Baur @ 1997-09-16 7:39 ` Mark Hovey 1997-09-16 14:12 ` Karl Kleinpaste 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Mark Hovey @ 1997-09-16 7:39 UTC (permalink / raw) How are you guys managing to get Quassia Gnus? In /ftp@ftp.gnus.org/pub/emacs/gnus all I see are various 5.4.x versions. I am feeling left out here! Mark Hovey ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 7:39 ` Mark Hovey @ 1997-09-16 14:12 ` Karl Kleinpaste 1997-09-16 19:45 ` Manoj Srivastava 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Karl Kleinpaste @ 1997-09-16 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw) Mark Hovey <mhovey@wesleyan.edu> writes: > How are you guys managing to get Quassia Gnus? Read the release announcements: http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz. I've defined a bash alias to do the fetch (gr = "gnus retrieve"): alias gr='lynx -source http://www.ifi.uio.no/~larsi/qgnus.tar.gz > ~/Emacs/qgnus.tgz' ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 14:12 ` Karl Kleinpaste @ 1997-09-16 19:45 ` Manoj Srivastava 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Manoj Srivastava @ 1997-09-16 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, >>Mark Hovey <mhovey@wesleyan.edu> writes: Mark>> How are you guys managing to get Quassia Gnus? I get it like so: manoj #! /bin/bash # -*- Mode: Sh -*- # mkgnus --- # Author : Manoj Srivastava ( srivasta@tiamat.datasync.com ) # set -x set -e GETFILE=1; GNUS_NAME=qgnus TAR_NAME=qgnus FILE="/tmp/${TAR_NAME}.tar.gz"; SITE_LISP_DIR=/usr/local/lib/emacs/site-lisp/ case $1 in -f) GETFILE=0; if [ "X$2" = "X" ]; then echo The option -f needs an argument; exit 1; fi FILE=$2; if [ ! -f $FILE ]; then echo The argument "$2" for the -f option needs to be a file exit 1; fi if ! echo $FILE | grep '^/' ; then FILE=`pwd`/"$FILE"; fi shift; ;; *) esac if [ $GETFILE -gt 0 ]; then if [ -f $FILE ]; then rm -f "$FILE.sav" mv $FILE "$FILE.sav" fi wget -O $FILE "http://www.gnus.org/${TAR_NAME}.tar.gz" fi cd $SITE_LISP_DIR rm -rf gnus ${GNUS_NAME}-* tar zvvfx $FILE ln -s ${GNUS_NAME}-* gnus cd gnus make rm -f $FILE -- He hath riches sufficient, who hath enough to be charitable. Sir Thomas Browne Manoj Srivastava <url:mailto:srivasta@acm.org> Mobile, Alabama USA <url:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-15 22:22 Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1997-09-16 2:45 ` Karl Kleinpaste @ 1997-09-16 11:41 ` Johan Vromans 1997-09-16 13:17 ` Chris D. Halverson 1997-09-16 21:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1997-09-16 15:55 ` Randal Schwartz [not found] ` <x7iuw1p4fl.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> 3 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Johan Vromans @ 1997-09-16 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes: > Bug fixes. > > Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz> or > "/ftp@ftp.gnus.org:/pub/emacs/gnus/". No qgnus on ftp.gnus.org? Also, www.gnus.org does not give information on QGnus. It does not seem to be updated since January 25th 1997. -- Johan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 11:41 ` Johan Vromans @ 1997-09-16 13:17 ` Chris D. Halverson 1997-09-16 21:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Chris D. Halverson @ 1997-09-16 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw) Johan Vromans <johan_vromans@nl.compuware.com> writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes: > > > Bug fixes. > > > > Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz> or > > "/ftp@ftp.gnus.org:/pub/emacs/gnus/". > > No qgnus on ftp.gnus.org? If you don't have www access to it (or don't want to), use wget: wget http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz Very straightforward. Get it from your local Gnu mirror. > Also, www.gnus.org does not give information on QGnus. It does not > seem to be updated since January 25th 1997. I'm sure that's because it's a prerelease type of thing. Many pieces of software of prereleases that are availabe, but not publicised. There are (obviously) quite a few bugs in the current qgnus due to the amount of new features. If everybody and their brother got it we'd all spend more time seeing the same emails over and over again. I'm content to read about it on the mailing list. Update the web pages when it gets a little more mature. Chris -- Chris D. Halverson Complete Internet Solutions PGP mail accepted, finger for public key http://www.CompleteIS.com/~cdh/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 11:41 ` Johan Vromans 1997-09-16 13:17 ` Chris D. Halverson @ 1997-09-16 21:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1997-09-17 0:50 ` Michael R Cook ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-16 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw) Johan Vromans <johan_vromans@nl.compuware.com> writes: > > Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz> or > > "/ftp@ftp.gnus.org:/pub/emacs/gnus/". > > No qgnus on ftp.gnus.org? Not even now? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 21:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-17 0:50 ` Michael R Cook 1997-09-17 1:02 ` Jason R Mastaler 1997-09-18 1:49 ` Joev Dubach 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Michael R Cook @ 1997-09-17 0:50 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: LMI> Johan Vromans <johan_vromans@nl.compuware.com> writes: >> > Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz> or >> > "/ftp@ftp.gnus.org:/pub/emacs/gnus/". >> >> No qgnus on ftp.gnus.org? LMI> Not even now? FWIW, I've been trying since qgnus-0.1 was announced, and I haven't been able to get into ftp.gnus.org ("server failed to respond to open request", or something like that). I finally gave up and used the http url. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 21:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1997-09-17 0:50 ` Michael R Cook @ 1997-09-17 1:02 ` Jason R Mastaler 1997-09-18 1:49 ` Joev Dubach 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Jason R Mastaler @ 1997-09-17 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > > No qgnus on ftp.gnus.org? > > Not even now? Nope. Jason R. Mastaler jason@mastaler.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 21:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1997-09-17 0:50 ` Michael R Cook 1997-09-17 1:02 ` Jason R Mastaler @ 1997-09-18 1:49 ` Joev Dubach 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Joev Dubach @ 1997-09-18 1:49 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > Johan Vromans <johan_vromans@nl.compuware.com> writes: >> > Get it from <URL:http://www.gnus.org/qgnus.tar.gz> or >> > "/ftp@ftp.gnus.org:/pub/emacs/gnus/". >> No qgnus on ftp.gnus.org? > Not even now? Nope. Joev <URL:http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~dubach1/> "'What's wrong with Starro?' 'Well, he's a mind-control starfish.'" -- Christopher Bird & Paul O'Brien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-15 22:22 Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1997-09-16 2:45 ` Karl Kleinpaste 1997-09-16 11:41 ` Johan Vromans @ 1997-09-16 15:55 ` Randal Schwartz 1997-09-16 21:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [not found] ` <x7iuw1p4fl.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Randal Schwartz @ 1997-09-16 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes: Lars> * gnus.el: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released. How non-upward-compatible is this? Or downward compatible if I decide to back it out? Is there some file that has just the new stuff in it? Is gnus.texi diff-able from 5.5 without generating a pile of stuff? -- Name: Randal L. Schwartz / Stonehenge Consulting Services (503)777-0095 Keywords: Perl training, UNIX[tm] consulting, video production, skiing, flying Email: <merlyn@stonehenge.com> Snail: (Call) PGP-Key: (finger merlyn@ora.com) Web: <A HREF="http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/">My Home Page!</A> Quote: "I'm telling you, if I could have five lines in my .sig, I would!" -- me ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-16 15:55 ` Randal Schwartz @ 1997-09-16 21:09 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-16 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw) Randal Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> writes: > How non-upward-compatible is this? Totally. > Or downward compatible if I decide to back it out? Sure. > Is there some file that has just the new stuff in it? No, Quassia Gnus will have oodles of changes all over, just as usual. > Is gnus.texi diff-able from 5.5 without generating a pile of stuff? Yes. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released [not found] ` <x7iuw1p4fl.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> @ 1997-09-16 21:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen [not found] ` <x790wvlvdl.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-16 21:16 UTC (permalink / raw) Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes: > If I kill a message-mode buffer, the drafts folder inherits a file that > contains nothing more than a Message-ID header. Or maybe this file is > created as soon as a message-mode starts and not deleted along with the > buffer? Either way, this causes problems for just about anything that > automatically runs through the drafts folder. How so? Anyway, I've make `kill-buffer-hook' delete the message. I'm not sure that's the right thing to do, though. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released [not found] ` <x790wvlvdl.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> @ 1997-09-18 1:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 1997-09-18 3:30 ` Paul Franklin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-18 1:35 UTC (permalink / raw) Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes: > The right thing to do is to write nothing at all in the drafts folder > unless and until told to do so either by saving the message buffer or > "sending" while the agent is unplugged. Ok; I've now done that. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released 1997-09-18 1:35 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-18 3:30 ` Paul Franklin [not found] ` <x7afhbb4hu.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Paul Franklin @ 1997-09-18 3:30 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes: >> The right thing to do is to write nothing at all in the drafts folder >> unless and until told to do so either by saving the message buffer or >> "sending" while the agent is unplugged. > Ok; I've now done that. Hmm. I'm not convinced this is the right thing. I think I'd prefer that the file in the drafts folder created immediately, so auto-saves happen and it's easy to recover if my emacs dies. Besides, what if I want to save _everything_ I compose, no matter what state I leave it in (empty, unfinished, sent), but subject it to expiry? --Paul ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released [not found] ` <x7afhbb4hu.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> @ 1997-09-18 8:08 ` Steinar Bang 1997-09-18 16:53 ` Per Abrahamsen 1997-09-20 16:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Steinar Bang @ 1997-09-18 8:08 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net>: > Okay, this is me being constructive for a change: if draft folders are > going to be part of qgnus (and I am not saying that they are, but they > appear to be a reasonably consistant means of queueing outgoing messages), > then two drafts folders are necessary. The first, "nndraft:drafts", > handles exactly what Paul wants, a kind of streaming backup for incomplete > messages. The second, "nndraft:queue", is the outgoing message queue. > This is where message dumps outgoing messages when the agent is unplugged. Good suggestion. Using nndraft:drafts as both drafts and a queue, leads to confusing behaviour IMHO. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released [not found] ` <x7afhbb4hu.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> 1997-09-18 8:08 ` Steinar Bang @ 1997-09-18 16:53 ` Per Abrahamsen [not found] ` <x7u3fi8lfm.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> 1997-09-20 16:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1997-09-18 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw) Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes: > The first, "nndraft:drafts", > handles exactly what Paul wants, a kind of streaming backup for incomplete > messages. The second, "nndraft:queue", is the outgoing message queue. Alternatively, use one folder but add a `queued' mark for "finished" messages. I would prefer it that way, as my messages would not really be finished until they are send. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released [not found] ` <x7u3fi8lfm.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> @ 1997-09-18 21:42 ` Per Abrahamsen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Per Abrahamsen @ 1997-09-18 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw) Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes: > I dislike that on a number of levels, not the least of which is that it > adds an (IMO) unnecessary mark. And the alternative adds an (FMV) unnecessary and problematic group. > Besides, a separate queue folder stands > out clearly as such. Which would be good the way you intend to use it, and bad the way I intent to use it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Quassia Gnus v0.5 is released [not found] ` <x7afhbb4hu.fsf@peorth.gweep.net> 1997-09-18 8:08 ` Steinar Bang 1997-09-18 16:53 ` Per Abrahamsen @ 1997-09-20 16:41 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 1997-09-20 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw) Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes: > Okay, this is me being constructive for a change: if draft folders are > going to be part of qgnus (and I am not saying that they are, but they > appear to be a reasonably consistant means of queueing outgoing messages), > then two drafts folders are necessary. The first, "nndraft:drafts", > handles exactly what Paul wants, a kind of streaming backup for incomplete > messages. The second, "nndraft:queue", is the outgoing message queue. > This is where message dumps outgoing messages when the agent is unplugged. Sounds reasonable to me. The reason I dumped both these types of messages is the same group is the (Free) Agent does that, so, like. I've now added "nndraft:queue", and the directories have changed location once again -- it's now "~/News/drafts/drafts/" for the drafts group, and "~/News/drafts/queue/" for the queue of outgoing articles. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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