Discussion of Homotopy Type Theory and Univalent Foundations
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From: Thomas Streicher <streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: Emily Riehl <eriehl@math.jhu.edu>
Cc: Homotopy Type Theory <homotopytypetheory@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Precategories, Categories and Univalent categories
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 15:01:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181108140101.GA9923@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3EDFBA7A-AF24-45D3-9CAD-7829239F458B@math.jhu.edu>

Dear Emily,

thanks for the various references. I was aware of Street's
generalization which is obtained from Grothendieck fibrations by
closing up under categorical equivalences.

But when one works with fibrations P : XX -> BB then it is intrinsic to
have have reindexing functors u^* : P(I) -> P(J) for all u : J -> I in
the base. And these one doesn't have in case of Street fibrations.

For me Grothendieck fibrations are a most useful tool for

1) categorical logic
2) category theory over toposes or even more general base categories
3) conceptual understanding of geometric morphisms and properties of them

and there the stronger notion of Grothendieck is indispensible.

For Street fibrations fibers over isomorphic objects need not be
equivalent anymore. That appears to me as counter intuitive. But,
well, speaking about fibers is evil anyway.

Thomas

PS  (1) Admittedly, in HoTT one needs fibrations less since one has
universes available. If I had to defense the HoTT view I would say
that fibrations are meaningless and they were used by the old category
theorists only because they lacked universes.

(2) In ordinary category theory, at least in topos theory, speaking about
internal categories is very important. I guess that is an eval notion
because it is built on equality of objects. Is there something like an
"internal quasicat"?


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-08 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-07 10:03 Ali Caglayan
2018-11-07 10:31 ` [HoTT] " Paolo Capriotti
2018-11-07 10:35 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 10:37   ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 11:09   ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2018-11-07 11:43     ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 11:50       ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 11:51       ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 12:03         ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 12:21           ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-07 13:00             ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 13:02             ` Bas Spitters
2018-11-07 13:47               ` Ali Caglayan
2018-11-07 13:53               ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-07 14:05                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 13:58       ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 14:14         ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 14:27           ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
     [not found]             ` <CAOvivQyG1q9=3YoS8hX3bRQK0yi+mpBnJu+rqb3oon0uPLpZ4A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-11-07 20:01               ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:37               ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-08 21:43                 ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09  4:43                   ` Andrew Polonsky
2018-11-09 10:18                     ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-09 10:57                       ` Paolo Capriotti
2018-11-07 14:31           ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 14:05       ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2018-11-07 14:28         ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 15:35           ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-07 16:54             ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 16:56               ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 17:31                 ` Eric Finster
2018-11-08 11:58               ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 12:23                 ` [HoTT] " Emily Riehl
2018-11-08 12:28                   ` Emily Riehl
2018-11-08 14:01                     ` Thomas Streicher [this message]
2018-11-08 16:10                   ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 14:38                 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:08                   ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 21:30                     ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09 11:56                       ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-09 13:46                         ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09 15:06                           ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 16:01                 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-08 19:39                   ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 20:00         ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:35 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó

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