From: Andrew Polonsky <andrew.polonsky@gmail.com>
To: Homotopy Type Theory <HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HoTT] Re: Precategories, Categories and Univalent categories
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 20:43:15 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c18e0ccd-c6e8-463f-acef-c9652534e73d@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOvivQxde2fnhbVGegjU0Fc7+jn+--EMXkjdNAuNyhxQFbN6Rw@mail.gmail.com>
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The intuitive notion of a category is given by the dependently-sorted
algebraic theory of categories.
In the ZFC metatheory, a standard model of this theory yields the usual
mathematical concept of a category.
In the MLTT metatheory, a standard model of this theory yields the concept
of a precategory.
The subtle issue is how to treat the equality predicate, appearing in the
identity and associativity axioms.
In set theory, equality is a former of atomic formulae, which are a
different syntactic category than sets (which interpret the types/domains
of the given language).
In type theory, equality is interpreted as any other type, in accordance
with "the formulae-as-types notion of construction".
However, more modern type theories, like HoTT or CubicalTT, have a
different, "native" conception of equality, so the "natural" notion of
category in these theories will accordingly be different as well.
One day, there might be a metatheory which is generally accepted as
providing a superior "natural" notion of a category, that avoids the
awkward points of the set-theoretic one.
Until then, it is best to be precise with language, always being explicit
which specific concept is meant.
Cheers,
Andrew
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-07 10:03 [HoTT] " Ali Caglayan
2018-11-07 10:31 ` [HoTT] " Paolo Capriotti
2018-11-07 10:35 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 10:37 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 11:09 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2018-11-07 11:43 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 11:50 ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 11:51 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 12:03 ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 12:21 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-07 13:00 ` Erik Palmgren
2018-11-07 13:02 ` Bas Spitters
2018-11-07 13:47 ` Ali Caglayan
2018-11-07 13:53 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-07 14:05 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 13:58 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 14:14 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 14:27 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
[not found] ` <CAOvivQyG1q9=3YoS8hX3bRQK0yi+mpBnJu+rqb3oon0uPLpZ4A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-11-07 20:01 ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:37 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
2018-11-08 21:43 ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09 4:43 ` Andrew Polonsky [this message]
2018-11-09 10:18 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-09 10:57 ` Paolo Capriotti
2018-11-07 14:31 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 14:05 ` Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
2018-11-07 14:28 ` Ulrik Buchholtz
2018-11-07 15:35 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-07 16:54 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 16:56 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 17:31 ` Eric Finster
2018-11-08 11:58 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 12:23 ` [HoTT] " Emily Riehl
2018-11-08 12:28 ` Emily Riehl
2018-11-08 14:01 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 16:10 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 14:38 ` [HoTT] " Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:08 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 21:30 ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09 11:56 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-09 13:46 ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-09 15:06 ` Thomas Streicher
2018-11-08 16:01 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-08 19:39 ` Thorsten Altenkirch
2018-11-07 20:00 ` Michael Shulman
2018-11-08 21:35 ` Martín Hötzel Escardó
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