* ancient articles @ 2005-03-31 14:03 Phillip Lord 2005-03-31 15:46 ` Christian Dietrich 2005-03-31 16:18 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2005-03-31 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw) Quite a few of my emails are marked as ancient (with an A). Can any one tell me:- 1) What is an ancient email? 2) How does this mark happen? 3) How do I remove it, and just have them expirable like other things. Cheers Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 14:03 ancient articles Phillip Lord @ 2005-03-31 15:46 ` Christian Dietrich 2005-03-31 18:11 ` Phillip Lord 2005-03-31 16:18 ` Reiner Steib 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Christian Dietrich @ 2005-03-31 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw) Phillip Lord <p.lord@cs.man.ac.uk> writes: > Quite a few of my emails are marked as ancient (with an A). If the 'A' is realy a capital a. > > Can any one tell me:- > > 1) What is an ancient email? Where did you read 'ancient'? A Mail which is marked with an A. Is a answered Message. > 2) How does this mark happen? You have post an Followup or you have sent a answer. > 3) How do I remove it, and just have them expirable like other > things. Why would you remove it. All these Things are in the Manual. So RTFM -- Die Lust an der Macht hat ihren Ursprung nicht in der Stärke, sondern in der Schwäche. -- Erich Fromm ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 15:46 ` Christian Dietrich @ 2005-03-31 18:11 ` Phillip Lord 2005-04-01 16:23 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2005-03-31 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Christian" == Christian Dietrich <stettberger@gmx.de> writes: Christian> Phillip Lord <p.lord@cs.man.ac.uk> writes: >> Quite a few of my emails are marked as ancient (with an A). Christian> If the 'A' is realy a capital a. A in a very O kind of way. Sorry typo. >> >> Can any one tell me:- >> >> 1) What is an ancient email? Christian> Where did you read 'ancient'? In the manual. Christian> All these Things are in the Manual. So RTFM Personally, I never found rudeness to someone I have never met particularly appealing. Cheers Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 18:11 ` Phillip Lord @ 2005-04-01 16:23 ` Ted Zlatanov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2005-04-01 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw) On 31 Mar 2005, p.lord@cs.man.ac.uk wrote: >>>>>> "Christian" == Christian Dietrich <stettberger@gmx.de> writes: > > Christian> All these Things are in the Manual. So RTFM > > Personally, I never found rudeness to someone I have never met > particularly appealing. I agree, that was not typical tone for gnu.emacs.gnus. Ted ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 14:03 ancient articles Phillip Lord 2005-03-31 15:46 ` Christian Dietrich @ 2005-03-31 16:18 ` Reiner Steib 2005-03-31 18:13 ` Phillip Lord 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-03-31 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, Mar 31 2005, Phillip Lord wrote: > Quite a few of my emails are marked as ancient (with an A). > > Can any one tell me:- > > 1) What is an ancient email? > 2) How does this mark happen? "A" isn't ancient: ,----[ (info "(gnus)Read Articles") ] | `O' | Articles that were marked as read in previous sessions and are now | "old" (`gnus-ancient-mark'). `---- ,----[ (info "(gnus)Other Marks") ] | * All articles that you have replied to or made a followup to (i.e., | have answered) will be marked with an `A' in the second column | (`gnus-replied-mark'). `---- > 3) How do I remove it, and just have them expirable like other > things. (info "(gnus)Setting Marks") Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 16:18 ` Reiner Steib @ 2005-03-31 18:13 ` Phillip Lord 2005-03-31 19:31 ` Reiner Steib 2005-03-31 21:07 ` Adam Sjøgren 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2005-03-31 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes: Reiner> On Thu, Mar 31 2005, Phillip Lord wrote: >> Quite a few of my emails are marked as ancient (with an A). >> >> Can any one tell me:- >> >> 1) What is an ancient email? >> 2) How does this mark happen? Reiner> "A" isn't ancient: Reiner> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Read Articles") ] | `O' | Articles that Reiner> were marked as read in previous sessions and are now | "old" Reiner> (`gnus-ancient-mark'). `---- Sorry, typo. O for ancient, A for answered. Reiner> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Other Marks") ] | * All articles that Reiner> you have replied to or made a followup to (i.e., | have Reiner> answered) will be marked with an `A' in the second column | Reiner> (`gnus-replied-mark'). `---- >> 3) How do I remove it, and just have them expirable like other >> things. Reiner> (info "(gnus)Setting Marks") Do you have any idea why they appear though? I am trying to determine if there is any specific semantics to being ancient. Cheers Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 18:13 ` Phillip Lord @ 2005-03-31 19:31 ` Reiner Steib 2005-04-04 9:48 ` Phillip Lord 2005-03-31 21:07 ` Adam Sjøgren 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-03-31 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, Mar 31 2005, Phillip Lord wrote: >>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes: > Reiner> On Thu, Mar 31 2005, Phillip Lord wrote: [...] > >> 3) How do I remove it, and just have them expirable like other > >> things. [...] > Do you have any idea why they appear though? I am trying to determine > if there is any specific semantics to being ancient. You talked about expirable marks. Expirable marks don't appear without any specific action or configuration. You didn't provide any information WRT this. It might be that the expirable marks get lost for some reason (IIRC people have observed this from time to time). | User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 Maybe it is fixed in Gnus 5.10.x. Using an outdated pretest version of Emacs isn't the best idea. Maybe you should upgrade to Emacs 21.4 (same as 21.3 plus one single security bugfix in the movemail binary). Alas, this won't give you a significantly better Gnus version, you'll have to download and install it separately. Gnus 5.10.6 is the latest stable release. I hope that there will be 5.10.7 soon. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 19:31 ` Reiner Steib @ 2005-04-04 9:48 ` Phillip Lord 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2005-04-04 9:48 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes: Reiner> On Thu, Mar 31 2005, Phillip Lord wrote: >>>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> >>>>>>> writes: Reiner> On Thu, Mar 31 2005, Phillip Lord wrote: [...] >> >> 3) How do I remove it, and just have them expirable like other >> >> things. Reiner> [...] >> Do you have any idea why they appear though? I am trying to >> determine if there is any specific semantics to being ancient. Reiner> You talked about expirable marks. Expirable marks don't Reiner> appear without any specific action or configuration. You Reiner> didn't provide any information WRT this. It might be that Reiner> the expirable marks get lost for some reason (IIRC people Reiner> have observed this from time to time). I use auto-expiry. Reiner> | User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 Reiner> Maybe it is fixed in Gnus 5.10.x. Using an outdated pretest Reiner> version of Emacs isn't the best idea. No, you are right about this. I need to update. I just haven't got around to it. Cheers Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 18:13 ` Phillip Lord 2005-03-31 19:31 ` Reiner Steib @ 2005-03-31 21:07 ` Adam Sjøgren 2005-04-04 10:04 ` Phillip Lord 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2005-03-31 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw) On 31 Mar 2005 19:13:35 +0100, Phillip wrote: >>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes: Reiner> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Read Articles") ] | `O' | Articles that Reiner> were marked as read in previous sessions and are now | "old" Reiner> (`gnus-ancient-mark'). `---- [...] > Do you have any idea why they appear though? I am trying to > determine if there is any specific semantics to being ancient. I may be misreading you, but are you merely asking what the 'O' mark means? I.e. the conditions necessary for an article to be considered ancient? If so, the answer is right there in the info-node that Reiner Steib quoted: an article is ancient if it has been marked read in a previous session (not the current session). Simple as that. Sorry if I misunderstood you and the above was obvious. Best regards, Adam -- "We've reached a special place... Spiritually... Adam Sjøgren ecumenically... grammatically." asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-03-31 21:07 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2005-04-04 10:04 ` Phillip Lord 2005-04-04 20:53 ` Adam Sjøgren 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2005-04-04 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Adam" == Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes: Adam> On 31 Mar 2005 19:13:35 +0100, Phillip wrote: >>>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> >>>>>>> writes: Reiner> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Read Articles") ] | `O' | Articles that Reiner> were marked as read in previous sessions and are now | "old" Reiner> (`gnus-ancient-mark'). `---- Adam> [...] >> Do you have any idea why they appear though? I am trying to >> determine if there is any specific semantics to being ancient. Adam> I may be misreading you, but are you merely asking what the Adam> 'O' mark means? I.e. the conditions necessary for an article Adam> to be considered ancient? Adam> If so, the answer is right there in the info-node that Reiner Adam> Steib quoted: an article is ancient if it has been marked read Adam> in a previous session (not the current session). Simple as Adam> that. Adam> Sorry if I misunderstood you and the above was obvious. Then I don't understand what is happening. I use auto-expiry on my main mail box, moving stuff to an old mail box after 30 days. If I look at my mail box now, I have a pile of messages marked as "O", then a set of messages marked as "!" (ticked, which I have marked so that they stay around). And then messages marked as "E" or "EA". If I look at the dates, those marked E (expired) are all less than 30 days old. The ones marked as "O" can be much older. They are certainly not all of my old mail messages, most of which have expired correctly. None of which seems to relate to messages read in previous sessions (presumably a session being an gnus/emacs restart). Cheers Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: ancient articles 2005-04-04 10:04 ` Phillip Lord @ 2005-04-04 20:53 ` Adam Sjøgren 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2005-04-04 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw) On 04 Apr 2005 11:04:55 +0100, Phillip wrote: Adam> If so, the answer is right there in the info-node that Reiner Adam> Steib quoted: an article is ancient if it has been marked read Adam> in a previous session (not the current session). Simple as that. Adam> Sorry if I misunderstood you and the above was obvious. > Then I don't understand what is happening. > I use auto-expiry on my main mail box, moving stuff to an old mail > box after 30 days. > If I look at my mail box now, I have a pile of messages marked as > "O", then a set of messages marked as "!" (ticked, which I have > marked so that they stay around). And then messages marked as "E" or > "EA". > If I look at the dates, those marked E (expired) are all less than > 30 days old. The ones marked as "O" can be much older. They are > certainly not all of my old mail messages, most of which have > expired correctly. > None of which seems to relate to messages read in previous sessions > (presumably a session being an gnus/emacs restart). I don't think the 'O' interacts with expiry in any way, but I'm certainly not an expiry-expert in any way (I don't use it at home, I use it casually at work, and I've never used auto-expire). When investigating why some articles older than 30 days aren't expired I would ignore the 'O', if I were you, I think. Hopefully someone with better understanding of this can jump in and enlighten things. Best regards, Adam -- "Vilken sanning, Måns, är sann?" Adam Sjøgren asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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