* Re: Turning MH folders into nnml groups
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@ 2003-03-27 11:01 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-03-27 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Peter Davis <pd@world.std.com> writes:
> I presume they need .overview files, but rebuilding all the groups on
> my nnml server (typing 'g' on the server in the *Servers* buffer) did
> not create these files. Is there
>
> 1) A way to create the files, or
Maybe the files weren't created because Gnus didn't know that the
groups were there? I think you can do `G m' to create the group.
Then M-x nnml-generate-nov-databases RET or the `g' trick should
create the .overview files.
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* HELP! (Was: Re: Turning MH folders into nnml groups)
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@ 2003-04-03 15:55 ` Peter Davis
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From: Peter Davis @ 2003-04-03 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
OK, now I'm hopelessly messed up. I have groups with names like
nnml:a\b\c
(I'm on Windows, so the "\" are directory separators.)
I had tried switching everything to nnmh, and then back again. Now I
have this weird mix of names. If I do 'F' in the *Groups* buffer, or
go to the *Server* buffer and hit 'Enter' on the nnml group, I get
this mix of "\" and "." separated group names. (NB: Hitting 'Enter'
in the *Server* buffer gives me all the names, but they're all marked
"K".)
So, I'd like to start over again. I have a hierarchy of MH mail
folders and files, and I'd like to turn them all into nnml groups in
Gnus. Is there some way to do this?
Thanks *very* much,
-pd
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* Re: HELP!
[not found] ` <84pto2mo36.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>
@ 2003-04-04 15:05 ` Peter Davis
2003-04-04 15:46 ` HELP! Kai Großjohann
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From: Peter Davis @ 2003-04-04 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> Peter Davis <pd@world.std.com> writes:
>
> > So, I'd like to start over again. I have a hierarchy of MH mail
> > folders and files, and I'd like to turn them all into nnml groups in
> > Gnus. Is there some way to do this?
>
> Well, probably it's enough to delete everything about that server
> from your .newsrc.eld file.
Is there some reliable way to do that? I see nnml stuff all over the
place in .newsrc.eld, including inside some fairly elaborate lisp
expressions.
What if I just blow away .newsrc and .newsrc.eld completely? I'm not
as concerned about the news groups. I can always re-subscribe to
those.
I tried to just delete the nnml server from the *Servers* buffer, but
I got a message that it was "read-only".
> Then start Gnus and see that neither nnml nor nnmh are mentioned
> anywhere, in particular not in the list of servers you get with ^.
>
> Then quit Gnus and add an nnml entry to gnus-secondary-select-methods.
>
> Then you ought to be able to see that server with ^ after starting
> Gnus, then you can hit g on it in the server buffer. This should
> give you an active file and lots of .overview files.
Well, if I can figure out how to completely get rid of the nnml
server, and then re-add it, I'll try it.
Thanks!
-pd
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* Re: HELP!
2003-04-04 15:05 ` HELP! Peter Davis
@ 2003-04-04 15:46 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-04-04 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Peter Davis <pd@world.std.com> writes:
> What if I just blow away .newsrc and .newsrc.eld completely? I'm not
> as concerned about the news groups. I can always re-subscribe to
> those.
That would work. (You also lose data about other servers you have,
but I think you know that.)
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* Re: Turning MH folders into nnml groups
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@ 2003-04-05 13:58 ` A. L. Meyers
2003-04-05 19:33 ` Peter Davis
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From: A. L. Meyers @ 2003-04-05 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Peter Davis <pd@world.std.com> writes:
> A. L. Meyers <me@privacy.net> writes:
>
>> pd@world.std.com (Peter Davis) writes:
>>
>> > A. L. Meyers <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> > news:<87u1dmd42z.fsf@wassern.consult-meyers.com>...
>> >>
>> >> Having tried both nnmaildir and nnml, yours truly finally converted
>> >> all groups to nnmh: compatible, tried and true, simple and stupid.
>> >> Never noticed any significant performance slag. And, as LMI wrote
>> >> here, nnmh is the way to go if you, like me, must copy mails back and
>> >> forth between office, home office, notebook.
>> >
>> > I think I'd like to try using nnmh to see how the speed is (on a 3GHz
>> > Pentium with 1Gb of memory). I have a tendency to switch mail tools
>> > among different programs, and MH is the most consistently supported
>> > format. With that, I could switch among gnus, MH-E, MH itself, mutt,
>> > and Sylpheed. That covers pretty much all the ones I'm likely to use.
>> >
>> > Is there some automatic way to switch my nnml groups to nnmh? I
>> > suppose I could to 'F' to find all the groups, subscribe to the nnmh
>> > ones and unsubscribe from the nnml ones, right?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > -pd
>>
>> If I recall correctly, nnml is already in "one mail, one file" format
>> but has some additional index files. If you search back through the
>> archives, you will find a thread or two on the conversion subject.
>> There is, I recall, a way to automate the process into one or two
>> commands but, alas, I cannot recall exactly how. Maybe some of the
>> knowledgeable experts who frequently contribute here :-) can assist?
>> nnmh can, however, read the raw nnml mail files without changing them.
>> nnmh does not use the nnml index files.
>
> Thanks. Yes, nnml is kind of like supercharged nnmh. However, I
> can't seem to get gnus to open my various MH folders, nor to generate
> new .overview files for them. I'd like to start over completely, and
> add everything afresh.
nnmh has no .overview files AFAIK and AFAICS, having looked at my own
numerous nnmh directories.
Cheers!
Lucien
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* Re: HELP! HELP! HELP!
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@ 2003-04-05 18:26 ` Peter Davis
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From: Peter Davis @ 2003-04-05 18:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) wrote in
news:84brzknbzu.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de:
> Peter Davis <pd@world.std.com> writes:
>
>> Well, I *thought* that was it. However, I'm now seeing some very
>> weird behavior. Specifically:
>>
>> 1) I fetch new mail. This appears to work normally, and all the
>> appropriate groups have unread message counts in the *Group*
>> buffer.
>
>
>> 2) I enter a group, and the number of messages in the *Summary* buffer
>> doesn't match the message count. For example, the new message
>> count said 5 new messages, but only 1 is displayed in the summary
>> buffer (and no, it's not a collapsed thread).
>
> Given that these counts are (bad) estimates anyway, I'm not surprised.
>
> Does C-u RET show all articles as it is supposed to do?
>
>> 3) I hit 'n' on that message, and another message gets added to the
>> *Summary* buffer. Continuing to type 'n' continues to add messages
>> to the *Summary*.
>
> Hm. There was a variable for auto-extending groups like this. Hm.
> I can't find that variable, though. Anyone?
>
>> 4) At some point, 'n' stops adding messages, and starts simply jumping
>> the cursor around among the various displayed articles. However
>> ... the display in the *Article* buffer *doesn't* match the line in
>> the *Summary* buffer, and I can't get them to match.
>
> `g' should do the right thing. But I've also seen `n' jumping around.
Thanks again, Kai. I'll try this again, re-creating the Active file from
scratch. It's entirely possible that the old one didn't quite match the
folder structure anymore.
Thanks!
-pd
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* Re: Turning MH folders into nnml groups
2003-04-05 13:58 ` Turning MH folders into nnml groups A. L. Meyers
@ 2003-04-05 19:33 ` Peter Davis
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From: Peter Davis @ 2003-04-05 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
A. L. Meyers <me@privacy.net> writes:
[...]
> > Thanks. Yes, nnml is kind of like supercharged nnmh. However, I
> > can't seem to get gnus to open my various MH folders, nor to generate
> > new .overview files for them. I'd like to start over completely, and
> > add everything afresh.
>
> nnmh has no .overview files AFAIK and AFAICS, having looked at my own
> numerous nnmh directories.
What I wanted to say was: "I can't seem to get gnus to open my MH
folders *as nnml groups*, not to generate new .overview files for
them".
However, I think I've gotten past this. It basically took cleaning
all the nnml out of my system, and then regenerating, per Kai's
suggestions.
Thanks,
-pd
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