[NTG-context] Use of marking

[NTG-context] Use of marking

[Thomas Meyer]

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HI folks,

yesterday while reading along I learned how to suppress the chapter 
numbers in sections. That was something I was looking for myself.

But how do you use marking correctly in startsection? I would like to 
see "1. Kapitel - 1. Aufgabe" in the header on the right. How can I 
automate this with marking?
And how can I reduce the space between the number (1.) and the title 
(Kapitel or Aufgabe)?

Thanks for your help
Thomas


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[NTG-context] Re: Use of marking

[Hraban Ramm]

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Am 20.03.24 um 08:18 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
> HI folks,
>
> yesterday while reading along I learned how to suppress the chapter 
> numbers in sections. That was something I was looking for myself.
>
> But how do you use marking correctly in startsection? I would like to 
> see "1. Kapitel - 1. Aufgabe" in the header on the right. How can I 
> automate this with marking?
> And how can I reduce the space between the number (1.) and the title 
> (Kapitel or Aufgabe)?
>
> Thanks for your help
> Thomas
>
Hi Thomas,

do you know how to use \setupheadertexts?

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupheadertexts

I guess you're using the section level for "Aufgabe"?

Then something like {\getmarking{chapter} – \getmarking{section}} might 
fit your request.

The formatting should be possible with 
\setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit".

Hraban

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[NTG-context] Re: Use of marking

[Thomas Meyer]

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Hi Hraban,

and thanks.

setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit"
works!

I know \setupheadertexts, but do not know what shall I write here:
\startsection[titel=Aufgabe, marking=?????]
If I write marking=Aufgabe I get Aufgabe, no number! For chapter the same.

\setupheadertexts
        [] [{\getmarking[chapter]} - {\getmarking[section]}] 
[{\getmarking[chapter]} - {\getmarking[section]}] []
----> Kapitel - Aufgabe


Thanks in advance
Greetings
Thomas


Am 20.03.24 um 09:09 schrieb Hraban Ramm:
>
>
> Am 20.03.24 um 08:18 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>> HI folks,
>>
>> yesterday while reading along I learned how to suppress the chapter 
>> numbers in sections. That was something I was looking for myself.
>>
>> But how do you use marking correctly in startsection? I would like to 
>> see "1. Kapitel - 1. Aufgabe" in the header on the right. How can I 
>> automate this with marking?
>> And how can I reduce the space between the number (1.) and the title 
>> (Kapitel or Aufgabe)?
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>> Thomas
>>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> do you know how to use \setupheadertexts?
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupheadertexts
>
> I guess you're using the section level for "Aufgabe"?
>
> Then something like {\getmarking{chapter} – \getmarking{section}} 
> might fit your request.
>
> The formatting should be possible with 
> \setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit".
>
> Hraban
>
>
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[NTG-context] Re: Use of marking

[Hraban Ramm]

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\setupheadtext[de][section=Aufgabe]
Rename the section, then you don’t need marking.

Sorry, I'm in a hurry and must look up how to get the number…

Am 20.03.24 um 12:18 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
> Hi Hraban,
>
> and thanks.
>
> setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit"
> works!
>
> I know \setupheadertexts, but do not know what shall I write here:
> \startsection[titel=Aufgabe, marking=?????]
> If I write marking=Aufgabe I get Aufgabe, no number! For chapter the same.
>
> \setupheadertexts
>        [] [{\getmarking[chapter]} - {\getmarking[section]}] 
> [{\getmarking[chapter]} - {\getmarking[section]}] []
> ----> Kapitel - Aufgabe
>
>
> Thanks in advance
> Greetings
> Thomas
>
>
> Am 20.03.24 um 09:09 schrieb Hraban Ramm:
>>
>>
>> Am 20.03.24 um 08:18 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>>> HI folks,
>>>
>>> yesterday while reading along I learned how to suppress the chapter 
>>> numbers in sections. That was something I was looking for myself.
>>>
>>> But how do you use marking correctly in startsection? I would like 
>>> to see "1. Kapitel - 1. Aufgabe" in the header on the right. How can 
>>> I automate this with marking?
>>> And how can I reduce the space between the number (1.) and the title 
>>> (Kapitel or Aufgabe)?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help
>>> Thomas
>>>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> do you know how to use \setupheadertexts?
>>
>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupheadertexts
>>
>> I guess you're using the section level for "Aufgabe"?
>>
>> Then something like {\getmarking{chapter} – \getmarking{section}} 
>> might fit your request.
>>
>> The formatting should be possible with 
>> \setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit".
>>
>> Hraban
>>
>>
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>
>
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[NTG-context] Re: Use of marking

[Andres Conrado Montoya]

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As I understand, Thomas needs a layout in which the header shows something
like

1. Chapter title -- 1.1. Section title (including the numbers! *This is the
important bit!*)

There are a couple things about this:

1. In a section (part, chapter, section, etc.) you can introduce three
versions of the title for that section. title= is the general one and if
nothing else is specified, this will be used in markings (headers or footer
or wherever you want to put therm) and in listings (contents). If you give
those arguments, marking= and listing=, you will get those texts in those
places: marking= on markings (you can call them with \getmarking) and
listing= in the table of contents.

2. As far as I have found, including the chapter/section number in the
marking is *not really a trivial task*. I usually hack something using
\headnumber and \getmarking, like so:

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location=,]

\setupheadertexts[{\headnumber[section].~\getmarking[section]}---{\headnumber[chapter].~\getmarking[chapter]}]
\setupfootertexts[][pagenumber][pagenumber][]
\setuphead[chapter][header=high]

\starttext
\dorecurse{10}{
  \startchapter[title={This is my chapter}]
  This is a chapter\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth } \input
math-kontinuitet-sv

  \startsection[title={This is my section}]
   This is a section\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth }\input
math-kontinuitet-sv
  \stopsection
  \stopchapter
}
\stoptext

But with a caveat: the `header=high` setting in setuphead for the chapter
needs to be included, or you will get a section number in the first page,
even if there is no section. I have not found a better mechanism yet, but
I'm quite sure there is a correct solution for this... I just haven't found
it yet. Checking for the presence of \getmarking[section] with
\doifsomething does not work, or I could not make it work.

A little bit more info here:
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/getmarking
https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/headnumber


El mié, 20 mar 2024 a las 9:23, Hraban Ramm (<texml@fiee.net>) escribió:

> \setupheadtext[de][section=Aufgabe]
> Rename the section, then you don’t need marking.
>
> Sorry, I'm in a hurry and must look up how to get the number…
>
>
> Am 20.03.24 um 12:18 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>
> Hi Hraban,
>
> and thanks.
>
> setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit"
> works!
>
> I know \setupheadertexts, but do not know what shall I write here:
> \startsection[titel=Aufgabe, marking=?????]
> If I write marking=Aufgabe I get Aufgabe, no number! For chapter the same.
>
> \setupheadertexts
>        [] [{\getmarking[chapter]} - {\getmarking[section]}]
> [{\getmarking[chapter]} - {\getmarking[section]}] []
> ----> Kapitel - Aufgabe
>
>
> Thanks in advance
> Greetings
> Thomas
>
>
> Am 20.03.24 um 09:09 schrieb Hraban Ramm:
>
>
> Am 20.03.24 um 08:18 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>
> HI folks,
>
> yesterday while reading along I learned how to suppress the chapter
> numbers in sections. That was something I was looking for myself.
>
> But how do you use marking correctly in startsection? I would like to see
> "1. Kapitel - 1. Aufgabe" in the header on the right. How can I automate
> this with marking?
> And how can I reduce the space between the number (1.) and the title
> (Kapitel or Aufgabe)?
>
> Thanks for your help
> Thomas
>
> Hi Thomas,
>
> do you know how to use \setupheadertexts?
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupheadertexts
>
> I guess you're using the section level for "Aufgabe"?
>
> Then something like {\getmarking{chapter} – \getmarking{section}} might
> fit your request.
>
> The formatting should be possible with
> \setuphead[chapter,section][numberwidth=2em] or "fit".
>
> Hraban
>
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>
>
>
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[NTG-context] Re: Use of marking

[Bruce Horrocks]

> On 20 Mar 2024, at 18:45, Andres Conrado Montoya <andresconrado@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 2. As far as I have found, including the chapter/section number in the marking is not really a trivial task. I usually hack something using \headnumber and \getmarking, like so: 

You can do the following:

\startsetups[doc:header]
  \getmarking[chapternumber] \space - \space \getmarking[chapter]
  \space :: \space
  \getmarking[sectionnumber] \space - \space \getmarking[section]
\stopsetups
\setupheadertexts[\setup{doc:header}]

\starttext
\dorecurse{10}{
  \startchapter[title={This is my chapter}]
  This is a chapter\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth } \input math-kontinuitet-sv

  \startsection[title={This is my section}]
   This is a section\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth }\input math-kontinuitet-sv
  \stopsection
  \stopchapter
}
\stoptext

Caveat: it needs an if...then test around the section number for when a section hasn't started.
—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK

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[NTG-context] Re: Use of marking

[Thomas Meyer]

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Hi Pablo and Bruce,

thank you very much for your two solutions. That helps me enormously now.

Greetings
Thomas

Am 21.03.24 um 16:34 schrieb Bruce Horrocks:
> \startsetups[doc:header]
>    \getmarking[chapternumber] \space - \space \getmarking[chapter]
>    \space :: \space
>    \getmarking[sectionnumber] \space - \space \getmarking[section]
> \stopsetups
> \setupheadertexts[\setup{doc:header}]
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{10}{
>    \startchapter[title={This is my chapter}]
>    This is a chapter\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth } \input math-kontinuitet-sv
>
>    \startsection[title={This is my section}]
>     This is a section\par \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth }\input math-kontinuitet-sv
>    \stopsection
>    \stopchapter
> }
> \stoptext

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[NTG-context] Re: Use of marking

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 3/21/24 19:00, Thomas Meyer wrote:
> Hi Pablo and Bruce,
>
> thank you very much for your two solutions. That helps me enormously now.

Hi Thomas,

literally, »nichts zu danken«, since it was Andrés and not me who
provided a solution.

Cheers,

Pablo
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