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From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix APIs: elegant or not?
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2018 17:29:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181104222903.GA24498@thunk.org> (raw)

On Sun, 4 Nov 2018, Chris Hanson wrote:
> Every piece of code that wants to call, say, read(2) needs to handle
> not only real errors but also needs to special-case EINTR and retry
> the read. Thus you should virtually never use read(2), only ever
> something like this:
> ...
> And do this for every classic system call, since virtually no client
> code should ever have to care about EINTR. It was early an
> implementation expediency that became API and that everyone now has
> to just deal with because you can’t expect the system call interface
> you use to do this for you.
>
>This is the sort of wart that should’ve been fixed by System V and/or BSD 4 at latest.

But it *was* fixed in BSD, and it's in POSIX as the SA_RESTART flag to
sigaction (which gives you BSD signal semantics).

POSIX supports both the original V7 and BSD signal semantics, because
by then there were programs which expected system calls to be
interrupted by signals (and to be fair, there are times when that's
the more convenient way of handling an interrupt, as opposed to using
setjump/longjump to break out of a restartable system call).

					- Ted

P.S.  The original implementation of ERESTARTSYS / ERESTARTNOHAND /
ERESTARTNOINTR errno handling in Linux's system call return path was
my fault.  :-)

             reply	other threads:[~2018-11-04 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-04 22:29 Theodore Y. Ts'o [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-11-04 22:37 Noel Chiappa
2018-11-05  4:04 ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-01 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2018-10-31  4:38 Warren Toomey
2018-10-31 15:47 ` Paul Winalski
2018-10-31 17:22   ` Clem Cole
2018-10-31 19:33     ` Lawrence Stewart
2018-10-31 20:57   ` G. Branden Robinson
2018-10-31 21:31   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-01  7:42     ` Pierre DAVID
2018-11-01 10:20       ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-01 12:57         ` Clem Cole
2018-11-01 14:19           ` ron minnich
2018-11-01 14:41             ` Clem Cole
2018-11-01 16:43               ` Warner Losh
2018-11-01 16:48                 ` ron minnich
2018-11-01 16:56                   ` Warner Losh
2018-11-02  5:24                   ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-04 10:53         ` Chris Hanson
2018-11-04 15:34           ` ron minnich
2018-11-04 17:06             ` Warner Losh
2018-11-04 20:00               ` ron minnich
2018-11-04 18:52           ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-04 10:49 ` Chris Hanson
2018-11-04 12:28   ` arnold
2018-11-04 21:34     ` Chris Hanson
2018-11-05 14:11       ` Donald ODona
2018-11-04 13:35   ` Warner Losh
2018-11-04 19:47   ` Dave Horsfall

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