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From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa)
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Unix APIs: elegant or not?
Date: Sun,  4 Nov 2018 17:37:46 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181104223746.4B8D018C0B6@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> (raw)

    > From: Chris Hanson

    > you should virtually never use read(2), only ever something like this:
    > ...
    > And do this for every classic system call, since virtually no client
    > code should ever have to care about EINTR.

"Virtually". Maybe there are places that want to know if their read call was
interrupted; if you don't make this version available to them, how can they
tell? Leaving the user as much choice as possible is the only way to go, IMO;
why force them to do it the way _you_ think is best?

And it makes the OS simpler; any time you can move functionality out of the
OS, to the user, that's a Good Thing, IMO. There's nothing stopping people
from using the EINTR-hiding wrapper. (Does the Standard I/O library do this,
does anyone know?)

	Noel

PS: Only system calls that can block can return EINTR; there are quite a few
that don't, not sure what the counts are in modern Unix.

             reply	other threads:[~2018-11-04 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-04 22:37 Noel Chiappa [this message]
2018-11-05  4:04 ` Dave Horsfall
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-11-04 22:29 Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-11-01 15:39 Noel Chiappa
2018-10-31  4:38 Warren Toomey
2018-10-31 15:47 ` Paul Winalski
2018-10-31 17:22   ` Clem Cole
2018-10-31 19:33     ` Lawrence Stewart
2018-10-31 20:57   ` G. Branden Robinson
2018-10-31 21:31   ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-01  7:42     ` Pierre DAVID
2018-11-01 10:20       ` Dave Horsfall
2018-11-01 12:57         ` Clem Cole
2018-11-01 14:19           ` ron minnich
2018-11-01 14:41             ` Clem Cole
2018-11-01 16:43               ` Warner Losh
2018-11-01 16:48                 ` ron minnich
2018-11-01 16:56                   ` Warner Losh
2018-11-02  5:24                   ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-04 10:53         ` Chris Hanson
2018-11-04 15:34           ` ron minnich
2018-11-04 17:06             ` Warner Losh
2018-11-04 20:00               ` ron minnich
2018-11-04 18:52           ` Bakul Shah
2018-11-04 10:49 ` Chris Hanson
2018-11-04 12:28   ` arnold
2018-11-04 21:34     ` Chris Hanson
2018-11-05 14:11       ` Donald ODona
2018-11-04 13:35   ` Warner Losh
2018-11-04 19:47   ` Dave Horsfall

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