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From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: Nemo <cym224@gmail.com>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] man Macro Package and pdfmark
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 09:00:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200220170006.GM30841@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfiPzzJEBHFBkrxb3vOOcwxaP+ohW5-VtG832NH5ocDTUoLag@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:48:03AM -0500, Nemo wrote:
> On 20/02/2020, arnold@skeeve.com <arnold@skeeve.com> wrote (in part):
> > Also, early Solaris was a dog. Performance was poor. It improved over
> > time, but it wasn't until around Solaris 2.4 or 2.5 that running it wasn't painful.
> 
> I recall that Sun salesfolk came in to sell us something-or-other and
> freely admitted that Slowlaris did not improve until dtrace came
> along, at which point Sun dived into system calls.

I was the lead guy on Sun's first cluster product, I developed it on
SunOS 4.x but Scott wouldn't let me ship that, it had to be Solaris.
Which screwed performance, it was an NFS server so all that traffic was
going through STREAMS, it was awful.

I gave a pitch for that product at the Moscone center and had to endure
heckle after heckle about 5.x vs 4.x.  I toed the party line for as long
as I could and finally I had enough and said something like "I know.
5.x sucks, it just does, but that's what I have to ship with."

It was taped.

Ken Okin, my boss and senior VP of all server hardware, heard the tape,
came to me and said "Find and destroy all copies of that tape.  Now!"

It was not a fun time.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-20 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-17 15:20 Doug McIlroy
2020-02-17 16:47 ` Clem Cole
2020-02-17 18:09 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-02-17 18:39   ` Jon Steinhart
2020-02-17 21:16     ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-02-17 22:50     ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-02-17 23:22       ` Warner Losh
2020-02-18  0:56         ` Bakul Shah
2020-02-18  3:33         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-02-18  7:27           ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-02-18  0:03       ` Richard Salz
2020-02-18  0:17         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-02-18  0:54           ` Larry McVoy
2020-02-18  1:05           ` Bakul Shah
2020-02-18  7:40           ` Greg A. Woods
2020-02-18  7:45             ` arnold
2020-02-18 20:24               ` Greg A. Woods
2020-02-18 11:22             ` Rich Morin
2020-02-18 12:28               ` arnold
2020-02-18 12:49                 ` U'll Be King of the Stars
2020-02-18 13:23                   ` arnold
2020-02-18 15:11             ` Clem Cole
2020-02-18 15:28               ` arnold
2020-02-18 15:36                 ` Larry McVoy
2020-02-18 15:43                 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-02-18 15:52                   ` Clem Cole
2020-02-18 16:40                   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-02-18 18:39                     ` Steve Nickolas
2020-02-18 21:26                       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-02-18 21:29                       ` Wesley Parish
2020-02-19  4:52                       ` [TUHS] Open source or free software? (was: man Macro Package and pdfmark) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-02-18 15:48                 ` [TUHS] man Macro Package and pdfmark Clem Cole
2020-02-18 16:02                   ` Chet Ramey
2020-02-18 16:28                     ` Clem Cole
2020-02-18 17:49                   ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-02-18 21:46                 ` Rich Morin
2020-02-18 16:47               ` Henry Bent
2020-02-18 20:22               ` Greg A. Woods
2020-02-19  4:44                 ` Larry McVoy
2020-02-19 18:01                   ` Earl Baugh
2020-02-19 18:12                     ` Emile Bye
2020-02-19 20:18                       ` Michael Huff
2020-02-19 20:34                         ` Jon Steinhart
2020-02-19 21:09                         ` Henry Bent
2020-02-20  7:27                         ` arnold
2020-02-20  7:43                           ` Rich Morin
2020-02-20 13:15                             ` Dan Cross
2020-02-20 16:23                           ` Larry McVoy
2020-02-20 16:34                             ` Arthur Krewat
2020-02-20 17:06                             ` Al Kossow
2020-02-20 17:24                             ` Bakul Shah
2020-02-20 17:48                               ` Rich Morin
2020-02-20 20:10                                 ` Bakul Shah
2020-02-20 20:18                                   ` Rich Morin
2020-02-20 16:48                           ` Nemo
2020-02-20 17:00                             ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2020-02-20 19:16                           ` Dave Horsfall
2020-02-20 23:45                         ` Doug McIntyre
2020-02-21  0:18                           ` Warner Losh
2020-02-21  1:14                             ` Nemo Nusquam
2020-02-21  8:19                             ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-02-21  8:17                           ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-02-21 10:17                             ` arnold
2020-02-21 10:37 ` Ed Bradford
2020-02-21 18:34   ` Heinz Lycklama
2020-02-21 18:59     ` Warner Losh
2020-02-21 21:10       ` Dave Horsfall
2020-02-21 21:46         ` David Barto
2020-02-22  6:48     ` Ed Bradford
2020-02-22 10:42     ` Al Kossow
2020-02-22 11:01       ` Ed Bradford
2020-02-22 16:38         ` Warner Losh
2020-02-22 18:11           ` arnold
2020-02-22 23:41             ` [TUHS] Mini-UNIX Warren Toomey
2020-02-22 11:08       ` [TUHS] man Macro Package and pdfmark Ed Bradford
2020-02-22 16:40         ` Warner Losh
2020-02-22 16:46         ` Clem Cole
2020-02-22 17:51           ` Heinz Lycklama
2020-02-17 18:55 Noel Chiappa
2020-02-17 20:13 ` Clem Cole
2020-02-17 21:06   ` CHARLES KESTER
2020-02-18  0:36 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-02-18 13:13 Don Hopkins

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