From: "Charles H. Sauer" <sauer@technologists.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] one element of one of M factions of N companies [Re: Amdahl UTS, AIX/370, AIX/ESA
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:36:14 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <479EA77E-E0A7-4B27-AEBB-42948309C03E@technologists.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191106000600.GD26959@mit.edu>
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Yes, but maybe the forced march at Athena was a year or so later, ’88 or ’89?? There was a preceding IBM internal “forced march” involving Bruce Walker from LCC, people from Palo Alto responsible for AOS (two co-authors of https://technologists.com/sauer/Convergence_of_AIX_and_4.3BSD.pdf <https://technologists.com/sauer/Convergence_of_AIX_and_4.3BSD.pdf> plus a couple of others) and AIX people. The work in that 1989 Uniforum paper was done in 1988, targeting AIX 3, as discussed a little more in https://notes.technologists.com/notes/2017/03/08/lets-start-at-the-very-beginning-801-romp-rtpc-aix-versions/ <https://notes.technologists.com/notes/2017/03/08/lets-start-at-the-very-beginning-801-romp-rtpc-aix-versions/>.
When I left IBM at the beginning of May 1989, I was running AOS on my home RT and AIX 2.2 on my office machine.
> On Nov 5, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 04:11:11PM -0600, Charles H Sauer wrote:
>> It has been illuminating, surprising, but not shocking, the last week of so,
>> to learn from from posts here, that AIX/370 was hard to get and mostly a
>> university offering. What we (AIX people associated with RT/PC and then
>> RS/6000) were told was that "everybody", especially Federal customers,
>> wanted what became known as TCF (the original Locus work) for 370 and PS/2.
>> I remember one Federal Systems Division person who seemed especially
>> effective as a Locus advocate. I'd always assumed AIX/370 and AIX PS/2
>> became more available than reported here, but I left IBM before they were
>> released.
>>
>> Enumerating factions/companies, just regarding AIX & Unix, there were the
>> Federal Systems faction/company, the academic factions/company (primarily
>> two factions, BSD & TCF, in Palo Alto), the PS/2 faction/company, the
>> Rochester System/38->AS/400 faction/company, the Austin development lab,
>> several Research locations (primarily Yorktown), ...
>>
>
> There was also AOS (Academic Operating System) which was basically
> repackaged BSD 4.x ported to the IBM/RT PC[1]. At MIT's Project
> Athena, most people massively preferred it to AIX, but we were force
> marched to AIX by 1987 or 1988. :-/
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_RT_PC#Software
>
> - Ted
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-03 21:05 [TUHS] " Kevin Bowling
2019-11-03 23:29 ` Dennis Boone
2019-11-04 0:06 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04 1:29 ` Dennis Boone
2019-11-04 1:58 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04 3:39 ` Gregg Levine
2019-11-04 4:49 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-04 15:32 ` Adam Thornton
2019-11-05 16:21 ` Ronald Natalie
2019-11-05 18:04 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 19:22 ` ron
2019-11-05 17:30 ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 18:07 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 18:15 ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 19:03 ` Christopher Browne
2019-11-05 19:12 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 19:26 ` SPC
2019-11-05 19:28 ` SPC
2019-11-05 20:26 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 20:10 ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 20:42 ` Kevin Bowling
2019-11-05 21:11 ` Clem Cole
2019-11-05 22:11 ` [TUHS] one element of one of M factions of N companies [Re: " Charles H Sauer
2019-11-06 0:06 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-11-06 3:36 ` Charles H. Sauer [this message]
2019-11-06 7:59 ` [TUHS] AOS and IBM/RT " SPC
2019-11-06 15:51 ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-07 22:40 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2019-11-08 4:39 ` Jason Stevens
2019-11-21 6:26 ` Al Kossow
2019-11-21 11:58 ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 13:07 ` Brad Spencer
2019-11-21 14:19 ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 16:16 ` Chet Ramey
2019-11-21 20:53 ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 16:43 ` greg travis
2019-11-21 19:41 ` arnold
2019-11-21 20:21 ` Jon Steinhart
2019-11-21 17:33 ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-21 17:36 ` Dan Cross
2019-11-21 18:11 ` Brad Spencer
2019-11-21 17:29 ` Charles H Sauer
2019-11-22 20:38 ` Al Kossow
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