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From: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
To: Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: emacs
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 20:47:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC20D2OdZa1ZFcLtXkPi58JS+N+wPJGUYGJoBVP1z7sv49+mWQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Rms did Not like.    Sigh

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 8:44 PM Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:

> http://wiki.c2.com/?TecoEditor
>
> Cantrell’s teco was pretty fast and used a lot less resources than any of
> the Unix EMACS invocations.  Gosling / CMU EMACS showed up in 81 on the Vax
> and is where mocklisp came from.   Zimmerman EMACS may have been earlier at
> MIT but Steve sold it to CCA so it was not nearly as widespread. Noel may
> know more. We got a license from CCA in ‘84 and shipped it on the Masscomp
> systems.
>
> Rms did like a number things gosling did and start to rewrite it.  (The
> defaults were different from ITS was one of his issues). He released his
> version around 85. FWIW:   There is still some bad blood wrt to that whole
> path best I can tell.
>
> I think there were a couple of others.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 8:04 PM Will Senn <will.senn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As a longtime user and lover of ed/ex/vi, I don't know much about emacs,
>> but lately I've been using it more (as it seems like any self-respecting
>> lisper, has to at least have a passing acquaintance with it). I recently
>> went off and got MACLISP running in ITS. As part of that exploration, I
>> used EMACS, but not just any old emacs, emacs in it's first incarnation as
>> a set of TECO macros. To me, it just seemed like EMACS. I won't bore you
>> with the details - imagine lots of control and escape sequences, many of
>> which are the same today as then. This was late 70's stuff.
>>
>> My question for the group is - when did emacs arrive in unix and was it a
>> full fledged text editor when it came or was it sitting on top of some
>> other subssystem in unix? Was TECO ever on unix?
>>
>>
>> Will
>>
> --
> Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual
>
-- 
Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-04  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-04  0:04 [TUHS] emacs Will Senn
2023-08-04  0:19 ` [TUHS] emacs Adam Thornton
2023-08-04  0:27   ` Rob Pike
2023-08-04  0:49     ` Larry McVoy
2023-08-04  1:00       ` Rich Salz
2023-08-04 13:25         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2023-08-04  0:32   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-04  1:23     ` Larry Stewart
2023-08-04 13:38       ` Ronald Natalie
2023-08-04  1:59     ` Will Senn
2023-08-04  2:26       ` Erik E. Fair
2023-08-04  0:39   ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2023-08-04  0:44 ` Clem Cole
2023-08-04  0:47   ` Clem Cole [this message]
2023-08-04  0:53   ` Warner Losh
2023-08-04  2:14   ` Dan Halbert
2023-08-04  2:18 ` Bakul Shah
2023-08-04  2:17 Noel Chiappa
2023-08-04  5:03 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-08-05  4:34 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-08-04  2:36 Noel Chiappa
2023-08-04  2:42 ` Rob Pike
2023-08-04 16:19 ` Clem Cole
2023-08-05  4:09   ` George Michaelson

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