From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To: Ed Carp <erc@pobox.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>,
Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Isaacson v Unix
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 08:26:29 -0700 [thread overview]
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On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:04 AM Ed Carp <erc@pobox.com> wrote:
> > I looked, and it too says next to nothing about Unix (which it describes
> as a
> > "programming language" - pg. 346). Oh well.
>
> Pretty funny, or sad, depending on your viewpoint!
>
> > This is really a pretty serious omission, given that the vast majority of
> > mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So
> just
> > about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their pocket.
>
> To hear some people talk, everything started with Linux, and Torvalds
> is a god. Nonsense.
>
> Even iOS and MacOS are derived from BSD, I believe. I know that MacOS
> is (or has been until relatively recently, at any rate) derived from
> BSD.
>
MacOS X is derived from BSD + Mach VM, with lots of infusions from BSD and
other projects. iOS is derived from MacOS.
Warner
> On 1/5/19, Noel Chiappa <jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
> > >> From: Doug McIlroy
> >
> > >> I have heard also that Isaacson's "Idea Factory" (about Bell Labs)
> >
> > > Did you mean the work of this title by Jon Gertner? (I have yet to
> > pull
> > > down my copy to see what it says about Unix
> >
> > I looked, and it too says next to nothing about Unix (which it describes
> as
> > a
> > "programming language" - pg. 346). Oh well.
> >
> > This is really a pretty serious omission, given that the vast majority of
> > mobile devices now run Android, which is a Unix derivative (Linux). So
> just
> > about everyone has a Unix-derived thing in their pocket.
> >
> > Noel
> >
>
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-05 14:30 Noel Chiappa
2019-01-05 15:04 ` Ed Carp
2019-01-05 15:26 ` Warner Losh [this message]
2019-01-05 15:37 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
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2019-01-06 3:45 ` Paul McJones
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2019-01-05 21:34 Doug McIlroy
2019-01-05 4:20 Noel Chiappa
2019-01-05 2:26 Doug McIlroy
2019-01-05 2:35 ` Ronald Natalie
2019-01-05 15:31 ` Larry McVoy
2019-01-05 17:01 ` A. P. Garcia
2019-01-05 20:27 ` Paul Winalski
2019-01-05 21:38 ` A. P. Garcia
2019-01-05 21:51 ` Rob Pike
2019-01-05 21:53 ` Rob Pike
2019-01-05 21:52 ` Larry McVoy
2019-01-06 1:50 ` Chris Hanson
2019-01-06 2:18 ` A. P. Garcia
2019-01-05 17:07 ` Donald ODona
2019-01-05 21:20 ` joe mcguckin
2019-01-06 1:43 ` Chris Hanson
2019-01-05 9:08 ` William Corcoran
2019-01-05 12:09 ` Ed Carp
2019-01-05 14:15 ` Paul Winalski
2019-01-05 15:01 ` Ed Carp
2019-01-06 4:35 ` Bakul Shah
2019-01-06 4:52 ` Bakul Shah
2019-01-06 5:00 ` Toby Thain
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