From: Chris Hanson <cmhanson@eschatologist.net>
To: "A. P. Garcia" <a.phillip.garcia@gmail.com>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] Isaacson v Unix
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 17:50:53 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EA79006D-6494-43F2-A211-FCC8529D428B@eschatologist.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFCBnZvM5VaZNHufFtiN-+on0NUs5=WnXZo=N8YxCw1OOvQb8g@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jan 5, 2019, at 9:01 AM, A. P. Garcia <a.phillip.garcia@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Sat, Jan 5, 2019, 10:39 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com wrote:
>> +1. RMS always talked big but the real work was done by other people.
>> GCC was Tiemann at Sun and then at Cygnus, groff was James Clark,
>> etc. I think RMS hacked on emacs but not much else.
>
>
> I'm going to refrain from either praising or disparaging the man. I think the book Hackers by Steven Levy does a good job of describing him and how the idea for the GNU project came about.
Dan Weinreb, who was in charge of Symbolics at the time, strongly disputed the RMS (and “Hackers”) story of GNU’s inspiration from what Symbolics “did to” the AI Lab.
By Weinreb’s account, Symbolics hired relatively few people away from the Lab, and RMS wasn’t simply rewriting Symbolics’ enhancements (which were shared with the Lab, and Symbolics’ customers of course) for the MIT and LMI environments, he was actually caught copying their code directly.
— Chris
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-05 2:26 Doug McIlroy
2019-01-05 2:35 ` Ronald Natalie
2019-01-05 15:31 ` Larry McVoy
2019-01-05 17:01 ` A. P. Garcia
2019-01-05 20:27 ` Paul Winalski
2019-01-05 21:38 ` A. P. Garcia
2019-01-05 21:51 ` Rob Pike
2019-01-05 21:53 ` Rob Pike
2019-01-05 21:52 ` Larry McVoy
2019-01-06 1:50 ` Chris Hanson [this message]
2019-01-06 2:18 ` A. P. Garcia
2019-01-05 17:07 ` Donald ODona
2019-01-05 21:20 ` joe mcguckin
2019-01-06 1:43 ` Chris Hanson
2019-01-06 2:40 ` [TUHS] Emacs (was: Isaacson v Unix) Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2019-01-06 6:01 ` Donald ODona
2019-01-06 6:03 ` Larry McVoy
2019-01-06 6:26 ` Chris Hanson
2019-01-06 7:50 ` [TUHS] Emacs Lars Brinkhoff
2019-01-06 14:23 ` Andrew Luke Nesbit
2019-01-06 14:30 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2019-01-05 9:08 ` [TUHS] Isaacson v Unix William Corcoran
2019-01-05 12:09 ` Ed Carp
2019-01-05 14:15 ` Paul Winalski
2019-01-05 15:01 ` Ed Carp
2019-01-06 4:35 ` Bakul Shah
2019-01-06 4:52 ` Bakul Shah
2019-01-06 5:00 ` Toby Thain
2019-01-05 4:20 Noel Chiappa
2019-01-05 14:30 Noel Chiappa
2019-01-05 15:04 ` Ed Carp
2019-01-05 15:26 ` Warner Losh
2019-01-05 15:37 ` Ben Greenfield via TUHS
2019-01-05 21:34 Doug McIlroy
[not found] <mailman.2.1546724053.30035.tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
2019-01-06 3:45 ` Paul McJones
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