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From: Stephane Chazelas <Stephane_Chazelas@yahoo.fr>
To: Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@sunsite.dk>,
	Richard Hartmann <richih.mailinglist@gmail.com>,
	Peter Stephenson <p.w.stephenson@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: arithmetic operator precedence
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:35:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080617143559.GP5016@sc.homeunix.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080617132039.GK5016@sc.homeunix.net>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 02:20:39PM +0100, Stephane Chazelas wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 03:02:46PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> [...]
> > It is unspecified. So, the shell is right to choose how it sees it.
> > 
> > > If $a contains an integer constant such as -3, then as per
> > > POSIX, $((a * 3)) should be the same as $(($a * 3)), that is
> > > $((-3 * 3)).
> > 
> > No, POSIX does not say that. It happens to be the same thing here
> > just because of the properties of *, but you can't deduce anything
> > for extensions.
> 
> It says $((x)) is meant to be the same as $(($x)) which I
> understand as any occurrance of a variable name (other than $-,
> $?, $0... obviously) in $((...)) should be the same as if the $
> was not ommited (when $x contains an integer constant).
[...]

It can't be that simple though, as in

x=-1; $((1 x))

which would be POSIX but fails in all shells.

Or

x=1; $((x = 1 + x))

which obviously is not meant to be the same as $(($x = 1 + $x))

So that

  If the shell variable x contains a value that forms a valid
  integer constant, then the arithmetic expansions "$((x))" and
  "$(($x))" shall return the same value.

says either too little or too much to be useful.

-- 
Stéphane


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-17 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-12  9:57 Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-12 13:12 ` Mikael Magnusson
2008-06-12 13:40 ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-12 14:47   ` Bart Schaefer
2008-06-12 15:01     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-16  8:17       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-16  8:07 ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-16 13:42   ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-16 13:59     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-16 14:33       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17  9:19     ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17  9:45       ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 10:24         ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 10:24           ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 10:38           ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 10:43             ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-17 11:28               ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:46                 ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-17 12:05                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19  9:37                   ` Jun T.
2008-06-19  9:54                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-19 16:00                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 16:20                         ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-19 17:14                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19  9:58                     ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-19 12:29                       ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-19 16:04                         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 16:10                           ` Mikael Magnusson
2008-06-19 16:27                             ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-19 17:25                               ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 17:20                             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 10:45             ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 11:38             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:19         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:57           ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 12:35             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 12:46               ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 13:02                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 13:20                   ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 14:33                     ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 14:53                       ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 15:49                         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 14:35                     ` Stephane Chazelas [this message]
2008-06-17 15:05                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 10:54       ` Vincent Lefevre

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