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From: Stephane Chazelas <Stephane_Chazelas@yahoo.fr>
To: Mikael Magnusson <mikachu@gmail.com>
Cc: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk
Subject: Re: arithmetic operator precedence
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:27:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080619162718.GG5016@sc.homeunix.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <237967ef0806190910q70c0d0d7y2466938b547a8ee4@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 06:10:56PM +0200, Mikael Magnusson wrote:
> 2008/6/19 Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org>:
> > On 2008-06-19 14:29:03 +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:58, Peter Stephenson <pws@csr.com> wrote:
> >> > That seems a good idea in any case.
> >>
> >> Can you add that this is done to remain both backwards and shell-
> >> compatible and that this is not what a 'real' language/calculator
> >> will do?
> >
> > This isn't shell-compatible. AFAIK, only bash and ksh93 support **.
> >
> >> Perhaps even include a reference to the POSIX argument.
> >
> > There's no POSIX argument. ** is just an extension.
> 
> I've followed this discussion, and I'm left wondering only one thing.
> If it's decided that $(( -1 ** 2 )) == 1, then what's the point? Why
> would anyone ever write that? Why require everyone to write -(1**2) when
> the expression makes no sense at all without the parentheses? Ie you would
> just write 1**2 without the - at all, nobody would ever write (-1)**2.
[...]

Think of:

double() {
  REPLY=$(($1 * 2))
}

square() {
  REPLY=$(($1 ** 2))
}

Where those functions are meant to be passed a number, positive
or negative, not any random arithmetic expression.

If you make ** have higher precedence than unary "-", then
square -1

returns -1

while double -1 returns -2 as expected.

-- 
Stéphane


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-19 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-12  9:57 Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-12 13:12 ` Mikael Magnusson
2008-06-12 13:40 ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-12 14:47   ` Bart Schaefer
2008-06-12 15:01     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-16  8:17       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-16  8:07 ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-16 13:42   ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-16 13:59     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-16 14:33       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17  9:19     ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17  9:45       ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 10:24         ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 10:24           ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 10:38           ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 10:43             ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-17 11:28               ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:46                 ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-17 12:05                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19  9:37                   ` Jun T.
2008-06-19  9:54                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-19 16:00                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 16:20                         ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-19 17:14                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19  9:58                     ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-19 12:29                       ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-19 16:04                         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 16:10                           ` Mikael Magnusson
2008-06-19 16:27                             ` Stephane Chazelas [this message]
2008-06-19 17:25                               ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 17:20                             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 10:45             ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 11:38             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:19         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:57           ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 12:35             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 12:46               ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 13:02                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 13:20                   ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 14:33                     ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 14:53                       ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 15:49                         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 14:35                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 15:05                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 10:54       ` Vincent Lefevre

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