From: ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 13:03:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <13426df10910061303u37e82be1x5a1e145271e5498b@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42823630713993f842f39502983f2623@yyc.orthanc.ca>
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX
<lyndon@orthanc.ca> wrote:
> I don't think DEC deserves this branding. In my experience they were
> one of the most open hardware companies around. Back when they were still
> DEC, of course.
You never dealt with Alpha maybe. The story is long and sad. One word:
PALcode. DEC deliberately limited PALcode access so that 3rd party
board vendors could not make boards as good as DECs. It did not seem
to matter that these vendors were selling Alphas ... only that their
Alpha board should not be "too good". This story is just one of many
w.r.t. DEC. It was sad to watch the Alpha blow its early lead due to
internal politics. Get with somebody who was in DEC at the time trying
to make Alpha succeed and you'll hear some interesting tales.
Does this situation have a present-day equivalent in the PC world? Yes.
ron
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-06 20:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <<85b966411695929ce06c3edd6e3fd77f@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2009-10-06 16:21 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-06 16:55 ` geoff
2009-10-06 17:21 ` ron minnich
2009-10-06 18:16 ` W B Hacker
2009-10-06 18:36 ` ron minnich
2009-10-06 18:50 ` W B Hacker
2009-10-06 19:13 ` Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX
2009-10-06 20:03 ` ron minnich [this message]
2009-10-06 20:58 ` Wes Kussmaul
2009-10-06 21:15 ` Aharon Robbins
2009-10-06 21:32 ` ron minnich
2009-10-07 21:07 ` Aharon Robbins
2009-10-06 21:51 ` C H Forsyth
2009-10-07 0:19 ` Dave Eckhardt
2009-10-07 0:24 ` ron minnich
2009-10-07 1:59 ` W B Hacker
2009-10-08 16:04 ` ron minnich
2009-10-07 7:59 ` Richard Miller
2009-10-08 7:35 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2009-10-08 10:44 ` Richard Miller
[not found] <<4ACED151.8060901@conducive.org>
2009-10-09 15:12 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-09 18:25 ` lucio
[not found] <<a17983cabc815054d953faf2696761f2@vitanuova.com>
2009-10-08 22:42 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-08 23:11 ` Steve Simon
[not found] <<13426df10910080904l5dc8f3d0sc88ec19f28939a99@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-08 16:17 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-08 20:55 ` C H Forsyth
2009-10-09 4:00 ` lucio
2009-10-09 5:59 ` W B Hacker
[not found] <<18f3fced1ebb90eb9c977b47bbcce424@vitanuova.com>
2009-10-06 22:16 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] <<13426df10910061136w616f7cf9m2b566606663a9f50@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-06 18:48 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] <<13426df10910061021g3b033abbia134769baee934d3@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-06 18:06 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-06 18:16 ` ron minnich
[not found] <<e7fdc0d20910050644x50fc7ad2hc943a075648fdabd@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-05 13:50 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-06 5:44 ` Rodriguez Faszanatas
2009-10-06 16:16 ` geoff
2009-10-06 17:18 ` Steve Simon
2009-10-07 6:24 ` Rodriguez Faszanatas
2009-10-10 1:23 ` Ethan Grammatikidis
[not found] <<e7fdc0d20910050205l7bfaa624m33a32f7a5269ff9a@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-05 13:16 ` erik quanstrom
2009-10-05 13:44 ` Rodriguez Faszanatas
2009-10-05 9:05 Rodriguez Faszanatas
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