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From: Martin C.Atkins <martin@mca-ltd.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] GUI toolkit for Plan 9
Date: Fri,  1 Mar 2002 13:57:45 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020301135745.706f318b.martin@mca-ltd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65cb447dbaf5f9da39d670e4f0596c79@plan9.bell-labs.com>

Hi,

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:22:23 -0500 presotto@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> I think 3B2 code deserves its own place in hell.  Poring over
> the ESS#5 code, someone found that there were lots of
> strcmp(p, "f(") == 0 checks (I may have gotten the exact
> string wrong but it's close).  It took us a while to figure
> out why.  Apparently, location 0 on the 3b had the 3 bytes
> 'f' '(' '\0', someone noticed that when programs blew up
> they were pointing to "f(", and the worlds most amazing
> kludge for detecting nil pointers was born.
> 

Thank god for Dennis's statement that this wasn't the 5ESS - one
replaced our local exchange just earlier this week! :-)
(and it broke things... Right now one of our lines is dead.
BTW: this is in India, *not* the UK, before people get confused
by my signature...)

> I heard a rumor yesterday that I'ld like dispelled if
> possible.  It was that the Linux kernel had to be compiled
> with optimization turned on to work.  I just tried compiling
> my Redhat system without and it crashed but then I
> turned optimization on and it still didn't work, so clearly
> I'm incompetent.

I'm sorry that I can't remember *any* attribution, but I thought it
was "common wisdom/knowledge" that gcc only really worked properly
with -O turned on. That the optimiser "optimised away the bugs put in
by the code generator". This is going back a few years, so it may be
things have "improved"?

Martin

-- 
Martin C. Atkins	martin@mca-ltd.com
Mission Critical Applications Ltd, U.K.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-01  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-28 15:22 presotto
2002-02-28 16:35 ` Ralph Corderoy
2002-02-28 16:55 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-01  8:27 ` Martin C.Atkins [this message]
2002-03-04 10:07   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-04 13:59     ` Martin C.Atkins
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-07  4:37 okamoto
2002-03-06  9:50 Roger Peppe
2002-03-05 17:29 forsyth
2002-03-04 14:33 Russ Cox
2002-03-04 14:02 nigel
2002-03-05  4:16 ` Martin C.Atkins
2002-03-04 14:01 anothy
2002-03-04 13:35 anothy
2002-03-01 17:21 anothy
2002-03-04 10:07 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 22:30 bwc
2002-02-28 21:34 dmr
2002-02-28 18:56 David Gordon Hogan
2002-02-28 18:41 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-28 17:19 anothy
2002-03-01 10:03 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 11:03 Bengt Kleberg
2002-02-28 16:41 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-01  0:54 ` Richard Uhtenwoldt
2002-02-27 14:19 presotto
2002-02-27 10:57 Bengt Kleberg
2002-02-27 11:10 ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 10:45 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-27 10:26 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-28 10:13 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 21:05 forsyth
2002-02-26 20:28 presotto
2002-02-27  6:54 ` Eric Dorman
2002-02-27 10:20   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-27 10:51     ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 13:27       ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-27 14:20       ` Ish Rattan
2002-02-27 22:44       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28  4:41         ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-28 10:19           ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 10:14       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 10:49         ` Matt H
2002-03-01 13:25           ` chad
2002-02-28  9:57     ` ozan s yigit
2002-02-28 14:55 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-26 20:25 Russ Cox
2002-02-26 19:05 presotto
2002-02-26 19:47 ` Mike Haertel
2002-02-27 10:07 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-27 10:29   ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 12:21     ` Graham Gallagher
2002-02-27 12:59       ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 21:07         ` Graham Gallagher
2002-02-28  9:57       ` ozan s yigit
2002-02-28 10:18     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 16:01     ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-28 14:55 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-26 18:00 andrey mirtchovski
2002-02-26 14:30 rob pike
2002-02-26 14:25 rob pike
2002-02-26 14:24 rob pike
2002-02-26 17:13 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 17:44   ` Dan Cross
2002-02-27 10:07     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 17:48   ` Quinn Dunkan
2002-02-26 19:40   ` William Josephson
2002-02-26 11:24 geoff
2002-02-25 14:59 andrey mirtchovski
2002-02-25 14:41 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 14:39 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 14:34 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 17:25   ` Dan Cross
2002-02-25 17:54   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-26 10:26     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 10:27     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-02-25  1:30 okamoto
2002-02-22 13:29 rob pike
2002-02-22 13:43 ` plan9
2002-02-25 10:09   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-22 17:11 ` Dan Cross
2002-02-22 12:42 forsyth
2002-02-22 12:42 forsyth
2002-02-25 10:10 ` phaet0n
2002-02-22 11:30 sape
2002-02-22  9:58 phaet0n

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