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From: chad <y@mit.edu>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] GUI toolkit for Plan 9
Date: Fri,  1 Mar 2002 08:25:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020301132528.D22C27A07B@home.jenwa.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:49:30 GMT." <20020228104930.297c3bf6.matt@proweb.co.uk>


> From: Matt H <matt@proweb.co.uk>
> ...
> Would you seriously have me believe that if plan9 went public domain
> tomorrow then by the end of March it would have 100 more users, 10
> even! I doubt even Thomas G Bushnell would be using it!

Without much effort, I can think of about half a dozen people at/around
MIT who aren't using Plan 9 right now who would be by the end of March
if `plan9 went public domain tomorrow'.  I suspect that the actual
number is much higher, actually, but that many of them would stop after
a few months.

None of the people I'm thinking of are what I'll call `hard line' free
software bigots.  Some of them simply chose to spend their time on more
`open' projects, while some of them simply cannot accept the ``I give up
my right to legal recourse if Lucent ever does anything bad to me''
clause.

It's natural and laudable to try to defend something that you like and
care for, but let's be honest here - even the core Plan 9 guys wish that
the license were `better'.  ``It is an imperfect world in which we
live.''  While license arguments have become common in some venues, and
I'm sure that they'll erupt here now and then, I (seriously!) suggest
something like:

``Yeah, the license isn't the best right now, but it's been improving
over time, and you can hardly blame `beleaguered' companies like Lucent
for being a little slow to come around.  We're using what we have now,
and in a year or two hoping that it'll get better still again.''

thanks,
chad


  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-01 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-26 20:28 presotto
2002-02-26 21:34 ` [9fans] compilers - was " Matt H
2002-02-26 22:06   ` Theo Honohan
2002-02-27  0:21   ` Mike Haertel
2002-02-28 15:11     ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-28 16:55       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-27  6:54 ` [9fans] " Eric Dorman
2002-02-27 10:20   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-27 10:51     ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 13:27       ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-27 14:20       ` Ish Rattan
2002-02-27 22:44       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28  4:41         ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-28 10:19           ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 10:14       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 10:49         ` Matt H
2002-03-01 13:25           ` chad [this message]
2002-02-28  3:26     ` [9fans] GUI toolkit for Plan 9 [really GPL again!] Eric Dorman
2002-02-28  9:57     ` [9fans] GUI toolkit for Plan 9 ozan s yigit
2002-02-28 14:55 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-07  4:37 okamoto
2002-03-06  9:50 Roger Peppe
2002-03-05 17:29 forsyth
2002-03-04 14:33 Russ Cox
2002-03-04 14:02 nigel
2002-03-05  4:16 ` Martin C.Atkins
2002-03-04 14:01 anothy
2002-03-04 13:35 anothy
2002-03-01 17:21 anothy
2002-03-04 10:07 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 22:30 bwc
2002-02-28 21:34 dmr
2002-02-28 18:56 David Gordon Hogan
2002-02-28 18:41 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-28 17:19 anothy
2002-03-01 10:03 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 15:22 presotto
2002-02-28 16:35 ` Ralph Corderoy
2002-02-28 16:55 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-01  8:27 ` Martin C.Atkins
2002-03-04 10:07   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-04 13:59     ` Martin C.Atkins
2002-02-28 11:03 Bengt Kleberg
2002-02-28 16:41 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-01  0:54 ` Richard Uhtenwoldt
2002-02-27 14:19 presotto
2002-02-27 10:57 Bengt Kleberg
2002-02-27 11:10 ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 10:45 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-27 10:26 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-28 10:13 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 21:05 forsyth
2002-02-26 20:25 Russ Cox
2002-02-26 19:05 presotto
2002-02-26 19:47 ` Mike Haertel
2002-02-27 10:07 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-27 10:29   ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 12:21     ` Graham Gallagher
2002-02-27 12:59       ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 21:07         ` Graham Gallagher
2002-02-28  9:57       ` ozan s yigit
2002-02-28 10:18     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 16:01     ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-28 14:55 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-26 18:00 andrey mirtchovski
2002-02-26 14:30 rob pike
2002-02-26 14:25 rob pike
2002-02-26 14:24 rob pike
2002-02-26 17:13 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 17:44   ` Dan Cross
2002-02-27 10:07     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 17:48   ` Quinn Dunkan
2002-02-26 19:40   ` William Josephson
2002-02-26 11:24 geoff
2002-02-25 14:59 andrey mirtchovski
2002-02-25 14:41 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 14:39 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 14:34 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 17:25   ` Dan Cross
2002-02-25 17:54   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-26 10:26     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 10:27     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-02-25  1:30 okamoto
2002-02-22 13:29 rob pike
2002-02-22 13:43 ` plan9
2002-02-25 10:09   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-22 17:11 ` Dan Cross
2002-02-22 12:42 forsyth
2002-02-22 12:42 forsyth
2002-02-25 10:10 ` phaet0n
2002-02-22 11:30 sape
2002-02-22  9:58 phaet0n

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