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From: Martin C.Atkins <martin@mca-ltd.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] GUI toolkit for Plan 9
Date: Mon,  4 Mar 2002 19:29:54 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020304192954.33a0cb67.martin@mca-ltd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87elj1v3nd.fsf@becket.becket.net>

On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:07:09 GMT "Thomas Bushnell, BSG" <tb+usenet@becket.net> wrote:
> martin@mca-ltd.com (Martin C.Atkins) writes:
> 
> > I'm sorry that I can't remember *any* attribution, but I thought it
> > was "common wisdom/knowledge" that gcc only really worked properly
> > with -O turned on. That the optimiser "optimised away the bugs put in
> > by the code generator". This is going back a few years, so it may be
> > things have "improved"?
> 
> One of the dangerous things about FUD is that people continue to
> repeat it, when it was never true, without attribution except as
> "common wisdom".

That's as may be. But it never occurred to me that this might be FUD
(until you kindly pointed it out). Rather, I thought it was a
curiosity about the way that gcc's code generation worked (and not
*inherently* incorrect, so long as one didn't regard compiling
without -O as "compiling"), and - more importantly - a hint as to how
to avoid unnecessary pain (to me, as a user of gcc, at that time, and
still now).

(After all, I'm still really a Linux lurker. Also, having lost most
of yesterday trying to get Plan 9 to install on a new machine without
destroying it's partition table (I tried 3 times before giving up and
zeroing the disk), I'm not too well disposed to Plan9 right now.
Although to be fair, it's working great now..... - BTW: What *does*
"panic iunlock" mean (I think that was it), apart from "You're
stuffed - go and hit your head on a nearby wall, and then start
over..."? First time I thought it was because I had done something
silly, but the second time I *hadn't* done the silly thing....
Still, at least the good side effect is that I no-longer have Windows
on the machine :-) )

BTW: what's the Plan9 equivalent of Unix's "find . -name ... -print"? 
(always a good fallback for a beginner :-)

Martin
-- 
Martin C. Atkins	martin@mca-ltd.com
Mission Critical Applications Ltd, U.K.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-03-04 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-28 15:22 presotto
2002-02-28 16:35 ` Ralph Corderoy
2002-02-28 16:55 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-01  8:27 ` Martin C.Atkins
2002-03-04 10:07   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-04 13:59     ` Martin C.Atkins [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-07  4:37 okamoto
2002-03-06  9:50 Roger Peppe
2002-03-05 17:29 forsyth
2002-03-04 14:33 Russ Cox
2002-03-04 14:02 nigel
2002-03-05  4:16 ` Martin C.Atkins
2002-03-04 14:01 anothy
2002-03-04 13:35 anothy
2002-03-01 17:21 anothy
2002-03-04 10:07 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 22:30 bwc
2002-02-28 21:34 dmr
2002-02-28 18:56 David Gordon Hogan
2002-02-28 18:41 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-28 17:19 anothy
2002-03-01 10:03 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 11:03 Bengt Kleberg
2002-02-28 16:41 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-03-01  0:54 ` Richard Uhtenwoldt
2002-02-27 14:19 presotto
2002-02-27 10:57 Bengt Kleberg
2002-02-27 11:10 ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 10:45 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-27 10:26 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-28 10:13 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 21:05 forsyth
2002-02-26 20:28 presotto
2002-02-27  6:54 ` Eric Dorman
2002-02-27 10:20   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-27 10:51     ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 13:27       ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-27 14:20       ` Ish Rattan
2002-02-27 22:44       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28  4:41         ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-28 10:19           ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 10:14       ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 10:49         ` Matt H
2002-03-01 13:25           ` chad
2002-02-28  9:57     ` ozan s yigit
2002-02-28 14:55 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-26 20:25 Russ Cox
2002-02-26 19:05 presotto
2002-02-26 19:47 ` Mike Haertel
2002-02-27 10:07 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-27 10:29   ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 12:21     ` Graham Gallagher
2002-02-27 12:59       ` Lucio De Re
2002-02-27 21:07         ` Graham Gallagher
2002-02-28  9:57       ` ozan s yigit
2002-02-28 10:18     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-28 16:01     ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-28 14:55 ` AMSRL-CI-CN
2002-02-26 18:00 andrey mirtchovski
2002-02-26 14:30 rob pike
2002-02-26 14:25 rob pike
2002-02-26 14:24 rob pike
2002-02-26 17:13 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 17:44   ` Dan Cross
2002-02-27 10:07     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 17:48   ` Quinn Dunkan
2002-02-26 19:40   ` William Josephson
2002-02-26 11:24 geoff
2002-02-25 14:59 andrey mirtchovski
2002-02-25 14:41 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 14:39 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 14:34 rob pike
2002-02-25 17:10 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-25 17:25   ` Dan Cross
2002-02-25 17:54   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-26 10:26     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-26 10:27     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-02-25  1:30 okamoto
2002-02-22 13:29 rob pike
2002-02-22 13:43 ` plan9
2002-02-25 10:09   ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-22 17:11 ` Dan Cross
2002-02-22 12:42 forsyth
2002-02-22 12:42 forsyth
2002-02-25 10:10 ` phaet0n
2002-02-22 11:30 sape
2002-02-22  9:58 phaet0n

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