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From: David Leimbach <leimy2k@gmail.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] linux stats in last year from linuxcon
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:47:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e1162e60909220747q6b657dfj8feb69c5b004a401@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3aaafc130909220717j55bc4f4br7d63e75c5f3578d5@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:17 AM, J.R. Mauro <jrm8005@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:12 PM, andrey mirtchovski
> <mirtchovski@gmail.com> wrote:
> > it's on slashdot, it must be true:
> >
> > "During a roundtable discussion at LinuxCon in Portland, Oregon this
> > afternoon, moderator and Novell distinguished engineer James Bottomley
> > asked Tovalds whether Linux kernel features were being released too
> > fast, before the kernel is stabilized.
> >
> > Citing an internal Intel study that tracked kernel releases, Bottomley
> > said Linux performance had dropped about two per centage points at
> > every release, for a cumulative drop of about 12 per cent over the
> > last ten releases. "Is this a problem?" he asked.
> >
> > "We're getting bloated and huge. Yes, it's a problem," said Torvalds."
>
> And instead of revising the design, I think we're going to see them go
> for the 2-percent speedups here and there.
>
> Another thing they won't consider is having separate versions for
> high-end servers and PCs. I don't understand why Torvalds thinks Linux
> has to be all things to all people.
>
>
Having used uClinux on an embedded platform, my only advice is "for the love
of god don't do that!!!".

It's not that good software can't be written for it, it's that people think
they're writing linux programs that the compatible APIs seem to almost
encourage one to write, and the net result is chaos and debugging
nightmares.

If I ever get to sound off on an embedded platform choice again, uClinux is
not going to be near the top of my list.

If you want linux, make sure the target has an MMU.  That's all :-)

Dave


> >
> > well, not really slashdot:
> >
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/22/linus_torvalds_linux_bloated_huge/
> >
> > Ron, did you throw anything at Linus while you were there? :)
> >
> >
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-22 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-21 16:22 ron minnich
2009-09-21 16:44 ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 17:04   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 17:29     ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 17:02 ` tlaronde
2009-09-21 17:20   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-30 13:22   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-09-21 17:41 ` Jack Norton
2009-09-21 17:53   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 19:32     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-21 19:42       ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  1:12         ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-09-22  1:26           ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  2:33             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22  2:52               ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-09-22  2:58               ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  3:02                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22  6:15               ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 14:23                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 16:57                   ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 13:48               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-09-22 14:44                 ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 14:39               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 14:47                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 15:04                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 15:14                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 16:26                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22  3:36           ` ron minnich
2009-09-22  3:38             ` ron minnich
2009-09-22 14:17           ` J.R. Mauro
2009-09-22 14:47             ` David Leimbach [this message]
2009-09-22 20:14             ` Richard Uhtenwoldt
2009-09-22 20:47               ` Jack Norton
2009-09-22 22:31                 ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-23  1:55                 ` David Arnold
2009-09-24 14:21                   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-24 15:46                     ` Jacob Todd
2009-09-24 15:56                     ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-28  3:35                       ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22 20:55             ` Chad Brown
     [not found] <<Pine.BSI.4.64.0909220654020.23231@malasada.lava.net>
2009-09-22 17:13 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 18:27   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 22:13   ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 22:25     ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 22:44       ` Jason Catena
     [not found] <<012201ca3fec$c58f6020$50ae2060$@com>
2009-09-28  3:38 ` erik quanstrom

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