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From: Tim Newsham <newsham@lava.net>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] linux stats in last year from linuxcon
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:25:55 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.64.0909221219120.23231@malasada.lava.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.4.64.0909221210020.23231@malasada.lava.net>

>> i'm not clear on what all functional correctness entails.  can

I thought I'd go into a little more detail about what they did since my
last email probably doesnt clear it up very much.  They wrote a model of
their operating system in a high level language (Haskell).  They then
translated the model into a language suitable for theorem proving
(Isabelle/HOL) and they proved certain properties about the model.  I
don't know specifics on what all was proven, but they did mention that
they processes are properly isolated (one process cannot write to the
memory of another process except through certain specific and controlled
message passing primitives). They then manually translated the spec into C
and made proofs that the model and the C implementation behave the same
way. There were no proofs about the behavior of the C compiler or the
underlying cpu.  So there should be no defects relating to the properties
they proved unless they are hardware or compiler bugs.  There can still be
bugs for properties which they did not prove.  Also the proof is over the
microkernel only, its obviously still possible to write an OS on top of
the kernel that has its own bugs.

You can find out a lot more from their papers and websites:
http://ertos.nicta.com.au/research/sel4/
http://ertos.nicta.com.au/research/l4.verified/
http://ertos.nicta.com.au/research/l4.verified/proof.pml

Tim Newsham
http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/



  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-22 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <<Pine.BSI.4.64.0909220654020.23231@malasada.lava.net>
2009-09-22 17:13 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 18:27   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 22:13   ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 22:25     ` Tim Newsham [this message]
2009-09-22 22:44       ` Jason Catena
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2009-09-28  3:38 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 16:22 ron minnich
2009-09-21 16:44 ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 17:04   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 17:29     ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 17:02 ` tlaronde
2009-09-21 17:20   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-30 13:22   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-09-21 17:41 ` Jack Norton
2009-09-21 17:53   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 19:32     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-21 19:42       ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  1:12         ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-09-22  1:26           ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  2:33             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22  2:52               ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-09-22  2:58               ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  3:02                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22  6:15               ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 14:23                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 16:57                   ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 13:48               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-09-22 14:44                 ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 14:39               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 14:47                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 15:04                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 15:14                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 16:26                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22  3:36           ` ron minnich
2009-09-22  3:38             ` ron minnich
2009-09-22 14:17           ` J.R. Mauro
2009-09-22 14:47             ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 20:14             ` Richard Uhtenwoldt
2009-09-22 20:47               ` Jack Norton
2009-09-22 22:31                 ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-23  1:55                 ` David Arnold
2009-09-24 14:21                   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-24 15:46                     ` Jacob Todd
2009-09-24 15:56                     ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-28  3:35                       ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22 20:55             ` Chad Brown

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