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From: Jack Norton <jack@0x6a.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] linux stats in last year from linuxcon
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:47:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AB937E5.9090402@0x6a.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1253650446.7386@localhost>

Richard Uhtenwoldt wrote:
> J.R. Mauro writes:
>
>> Another thing they won't consider is having separate versions for
>> high-end servers and PCs. I don't understand why Torvalds thinks Linux
>> has to be all things to all people.
>>
>
> the Linux running on a high-end server is probably compiled from
> the same (evolving over time) source tree as the Linux running on
> a desktop.
>
> but cannot the same be said of Windows now that most desktops run
> Windows XP or a later version of Windows?  cannot the same be
> said of OS X?
>
> Richard Uhtenwoldt
> http://sonic.net/~sielskr
>
>
The big topic for me is the realtime patch (the one mentioned at
rt.wiki.kernel.org).  I dabble in computer based audio, and this patch
is mandatory for low latency audio.  There is a big debate as to why
this isn't pushed into the main kernel source and/or forked in the name
of such things.  All I will say is that on OSX I can use jack daemon and
get low latency audio right out of the box and on windows I can use low
latency drivers such as ASIO and the newer WaveRT.   It's even more
tragic as there are tons of great linux audio tools, but they are a hard
sale because you need to apply the rt-patch (which for a musician is
like performing open heart surgery).
In the end I don't care what the linux devs do, but they need to come up
with a game plan and either fork (server, desktop linux) or include it
all and try and make everyone happy (the latter will end in chaos me
thinks).

What I just described is the number one topic that brings up the 'fork
linux' debate (at least it's the one I always pay attention to).

Speaking of realtime, I am trying my hardest to port some of our custom
control applications that we use around my engineering lab to inferno
(anyone doing something similar?  inferno list is not exactly a popular
place apparently).  Right now I spit out a python script on the fly for
everything (quick turnaround) and it's getting old (plus I want to be
able to control anything in the lab from any machine in the lab -- i.e.
a perfect place for some inferno installs)

-jack



  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-22 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-21 16:22 ron minnich
2009-09-21 16:44 ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 17:04   ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-21 17:29     ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 17:02 ` tlaronde
2009-09-21 17:20   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-30 13:22   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2009-09-21 17:41 ` Jack Norton
2009-09-21 17:53   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-21 19:32     ` David Leimbach
2009-09-21 19:42       ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  1:12         ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-09-22  1:26           ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  2:33             ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22  2:52               ` andrey mirtchovski
2009-09-22  2:58               ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22  3:02                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22  6:15               ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 14:23                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 16:57                   ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 13:48               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-09-22 14:44                 ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 14:39               ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 14:47                 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 15:04                   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 15:14                     ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 16:26                       ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22  3:36           ` ron minnich
2009-09-22  3:38             ` ron minnich
2009-09-22 14:17           ` J.R. Mauro
2009-09-22 14:47             ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 20:14             ` Richard Uhtenwoldt
2009-09-22 20:47               ` Jack Norton [this message]
2009-09-22 22:31                 ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-23  1:55                 ` David Arnold
2009-09-24 14:21                   ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-24 15:46                     ` Jacob Todd
2009-09-24 15:56                     ` Iruata Souza
2009-09-28  3:35                       ` Patrick Kelly
2009-09-22 20:55             ` Chad Brown
     [not found] <<Pine.BSI.4.64.0909220654020.23231@malasada.lava.net>
2009-09-22 17:13 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-22 18:27   ` David Leimbach
2009-09-22 22:13   ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 22:25     ` Tim Newsham
2009-09-22 22:44       ` Jason Catena
     [not found] <<012201ca3fec$c58f6020$50ae2060$@com>
2009-09-28  3:38 ` erik quanstrom

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