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From: W B Hacker <wbh@conducive.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM	ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9?]
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 21:46:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <464B0B50.2030805@conducive.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d846ee8c0705160500v186355c2r2b6ea3b1659b78ad@mail.gmail.com>

Robert Sherwood wrote:
> More than that; hobbyists, however enlightened, cannot provide continuing
> funding for Plan 9 development. Witness current hardware support. Plan 9 
> has
> to grow or eventually die.
> 

The overall 'computerish' and network worlds are now large enough that even a 
very small niche can remain viable.

So I don't know that plan9 has to 'grow' as much as it has to be seen as 'of 
value' and still an environment where ideas are put into practice that are NOT 
done [well | at all] elsewhere. Much as is the case with a fair number of 
'embedded' OS.

IOW - it has to be seen as 'useful' to enough folks - be they students, 
researchers, purely experimenters, or pragmatists with specialized 'real world' 
(read 'commercial') applications not as well served with other tools.

Whether it [still | ever ] [does | did ] any/all of those things is a separate 
issue from mass popularity or 'growth'.

That said - I have not personally detected a particularly 'comfortable' level of 
  published evidence in that direction.

Even Vita Nuova's news releases seem few and far between, as if maintenance of a 
legacy base and a design-win every few *years* is all that is going on.

Bill



  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-16 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-12  8:43 Vester Thacker
2007-05-12 14:36 ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad lucio
2007-05-12 21:56   ` Navin Johnson
2007-05-12 14:38 ` lucio
2007-05-15 17:13 ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9?] Dave Lukes
2007-05-16  4:10   ` Navin Johnson
2007-05-16  4:41     ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM lucio
2007-05-16  4:46     ` lucio
2007-05-16  7:29     ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-16 12:00     ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9?] Robert Sherwood
2007-05-16 13:46       ` W B Hacker [this message]
2007-05-16 14:03       ` erik quanstrom
2007-05-16 14:56         ` Robert Sherwood
2007-05-16 17:54       ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM lucio
2007-05-16 18:38         ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-16 18:42           ` lucio
2007-05-16 23:32         ` W B Hacker
2007-05-16 23:51           ` Uriel
2007-05-17  0:13             ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17  4:41           ` lucio
2007-05-17 11:34             ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 18:01               ` lucio
2007-05-17 14:26           ` [9fans] Wearables john
2007-05-17 14:33             ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-05-17 14:33             ` David Leimbach
2007-05-17 15:20               ` john
2007-05-17 14:58             ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 15:30               ` john
2007-05-17 16:38                 ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 15:24             ` ron minnich
2007-05-17 15:33               ` john
2007-05-17 16:00                 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-17 16:14                 ` ron minnich
2007-05-17 16:38                   ` john
2007-05-17 16:45                     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-05-17 16:51                       ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 17:04                     ` Salva Peiró
2007-05-17 17:14                     ` erik quanstrom
2007-05-17 17:18                     ` ron minnich
2007-05-17 19:04                       ` tlaronde
2007-05-17 17:24                     ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-17 18:43                       ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-17 18:07             ` lucio
2007-05-18 16:54         ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM Cranky Old Bat
2007-05-18 18:49           ` lucio
2007-05-18 18:58             ` Devon H. O'Dell
2007-05-18 19:32               ` David Leimbach
2007-05-18 19:35                 ` ron minnich
2007-05-18 21:21                   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-05-21 23:32                   ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-18 19:54           ` Markus Sonderegger
2007-05-16 14:45   ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-05-17 14:32     ` Dave Lukes
2007-05-17 18:09       ` lucio
2007-05-18 12:36       ` Gorka Guardiola

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