From: W B Hacker <wbh@conducive.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Wearables
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 22:58:23 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <464C6D8F.7040608@conducive.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3fd183965e5baa133533b837abfe09c2@csplan9.rit.edu>
john@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
>> lucio@proxima.alt.za wrote:
>> But if ever there was a market born to take best advantage of Plan9's long suit,
>> handheld, or 'wearable' has to be the most obvious contender, and on power nd
>> bandwidth consumption as much as CPU cycles or 'local' RAM capacity.
>>
>
> A friend and I are starting a project to create a simple wearable computer. We've
> got some hardware to get started; probably will begin with a laptop, our camera
> viewfinder HMD, and a keyboard strapped around the waist (crude, I know) or
> some form of home-brewed chording device. I considered using Plan 9, but since
> we don't plan to include a pointing device yet, and the viewfinder can only display
> low resolutions and in black and white, I think we'll end up going with something
> designed to be used 80x24 characters at a time... Linux. If somebody can present
> me with some good reasons to use Plan 9 instead, we can try it, but I really
> don't think Plan 9 actually is ideal for a wearable.
>
> John
>
>
'Ideal' only in two senses:
- Very well-suited to having the 'heavy' resources remoted over reasonably
efficient (low bandwidth) networking.
- lacking a GP GUI (rio/acme are, IMNSHO, a coder's IDE, not a GP GUI), but
having lightweight tools to implement one (drawterm, VNC) - so you can do
'locally' only what your app really *must* do locally.
As to 'pointing device' - why not a tilt-disk, 'clit' or trackball? All of which
are cheaply salvaged from new or used hardware. Chording the 'Plan9 way' is not
an absolute requirement - just one already built-in.
Viewing device? 'Virtual reality' headset, perhaps?
Or go the other way...
text-to-speech in an earpiece, speech-to-text from a mic.
'Heavy' CPU to convert bothways accurately is remoted.
Might mean the heaviest thing you have to wear is...
...a 'dumb' telephone handset and a thin LCD for graphics when needed.
My biggest personal objection to most modern PDA/phone rigs (Blackberry, Treo,
et al) is the need to grab a stylus and/or otherwise use BOTH hands when NO
hands is a nicer goal, and ONE hand was possible even with the ancient HP-200-LX
(thumb-typing).
Belt-mount and Bluetooth or similar seems a good idea though.
Linux? Far too 'heavy', even stripped - which is not as easy as it sounds if you
need even basic functionality). if not Plan9, then Minix3 revanche is lighter
(and very Posix compliant)
But might be better-off with DRDOS and GEM. Seriously.
Find an HP-100/200-LX (MSDOS, not DRDOS) and see what was possible lo those many
years ago with a couple of the right PCMCIA cards and lithium AA batteries.
Used to carry a pair of clip leads and external twin D-cell holder to send faxes
and login to CompuServe from hotel rooms. Purchased and discarded batteries
locally so as to not have to carry the weight or a charger. ELSE 'borrowed' the
rechargeable emergency flashlight found in many hotels.
'Too soon we forget' how much could be accomplished with a lowly VT-whatever
'dumb terminal' connected to the right support infrastructure at a mere 1200 -
9600 bps.
These need not replace the entire laptop/desktop 'puterish experience - just
bridge the gaps.
Bill
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-17 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-12 8:43 Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9?] Vester Thacker
2007-05-12 14:36 ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad lucio
2007-05-12 21:56 ` Navin Johnson
2007-05-12 14:38 ` lucio
2007-05-15 17:13 ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9?] Dave Lukes
2007-05-16 4:10 ` Navin Johnson
2007-05-16 4:41 ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM lucio
2007-05-16 4:46 ` lucio
2007-05-16 7:29 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-16 12:00 ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM ThinkPad R60e notebook compatible with Plan9?] Robert Sherwood
2007-05-16 13:46 ` W B Hacker
2007-05-16 14:03 ` erik quanstrom
2007-05-16 14:56 ` Robert Sherwood
2007-05-16 17:54 ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM lucio
2007-05-16 18:38 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-16 18:42 ` lucio
2007-05-16 23:32 ` W B Hacker
2007-05-16 23:51 ` Uriel
2007-05-17 0:13 ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 4:41 ` lucio
2007-05-17 11:34 ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 18:01 ` lucio
2007-05-17 14:26 ` [9fans] Wearables john
2007-05-17 14:33 ` Gabriel Diaz
2007-05-17 14:33 ` David Leimbach
2007-05-17 15:20 ` john
2007-05-17 14:58 ` W B Hacker [this message]
2007-05-17 15:30 ` john
2007-05-17 16:38 ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 15:24 ` ron minnich
2007-05-17 15:33 ` john
2007-05-17 16:00 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-17 16:14 ` ron minnich
2007-05-17 16:38 ` john
2007-05-17 16:45 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-05-17 16:51 ` W B Hacker
2007-05-17 17:04 ` Salva Peiró
2007-05-17 17:14 ` erik quanstrom
2007-05-17 17:18 ` ron minnich
2007-05-17 19:04 ` tlaronde
2007-05-17 17:24 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-17 18:43 ` Charles Forsyth
2007-05-17 18:07 ` lucio
2007-05-18 16:54 ` Warning: Rant. Please disregard. [Was: Re: [9fans] Is IBM Cranky Old Bat
2007-05-18 18:49 ` lucio
2007-05-18 18:58 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2007-05-18 19:32 ` David Leimbach
2007-05-18 19:35 ` ron minnich
2007-05-18 21:21 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2007-05-21 23:32 ` Enrico Weigelt
2007-05-18 19:54 ` Markus Sonderegger
2007-05-16 14:45 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2007-05-17 14:32 ` Dave Lukes
2007-05-17 18:09 ` lucio
2007-05-18 12:36 ` Gorka Guardiola
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